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thubalek
Posts: 323
Registered: ‎10-01-2012
My Device: Dev Alpha C, Playbook 32 GB

Re: Upload BB10 App for 10k but rejected after that not response BFB team

No toolkit. Simply add 

 

<qnx>
....
<cascadesTheme>dark</cascadesTheme>
...
</qnx>

 

 

into bar-descriptor.xml

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jtegen
Posts: 6,541
Registered: ‎10-27-2010
My Device: HTC One, PlayBook, LE Z10, DE Q10

Re: Upload BB10 App for 10k but rejected after that not response BFB team

Ah, unique to Cascades. AIR allows you to define white or black these, but the title bar color is not impacted.
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thubalek
Posts: 323
Registered: ‎10-01-2012
My Device: Dev Alpha C, Playbook 32 GB

Re: Upload BB10 App for 10k but rejected after that not response BFB team

Good to know, thanks for info
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luko
Posts: 48
Registered: ‎06-26-2011
My Device: Blackberry Playbook

Re: Upload BB10 App for 10k but rejected after that not response BFB team

@jtegen

 

Do You mean that app should always use blue titlebar?

My app was rejected because of UI but I don't know what is the problem because it wasn't specified in e-mail from testing team. My app is using grey background. Should it be white or black?

 

Thanks in advance for response

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thubalek
Posts: 323
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Re: Upload BB10 App for 10k but rejected after that not response BFB team

@luko don't think so. Unfortunately my opinion is irrelevant
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jtegen
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Re: Upload BB10 App for 10k but rejected after that not response BFB team

[ Edited ]

Apps can have unique backgrounds, its just the controls that should be BB controls (to what ever toolkit you are using). The whole idea of BFB is that when a user sees the app, they know right away that it is a BB app (not Android, not iOS, not WebOS, etc.). Common controls enhances UX since the learning curve between BFB apps is consistent. As more people become use to the swipes and flow of a BB app, they will seek out apps that behave the same way on their BB10 device. Those that do not follow the convention will see a reduction in downloads and if they want to become successful on BB10, they will need to adopt the same conventions.

If the UI guidelines show blue as the standard UI toolbar, then it is a part of the guidelines. It does not say you have to use a titlebar, but if you do, it should be a BB titlebar.

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thubalek
Posts: 323
Registered: ‎10-01-2012
My Device: Dev Alpha C, Playbook 32 GB

BTW: jtegen - you wrote  I am beginning to see a pattern...

BTW: jtegen - you wrote  I am beginning to see a pattern of what they are looking for. Could you please share your observations with us? I still don't see anything official from BB.

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jtegen
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Re: BTW: jtegen - you wrote I am beginning to see a pattern...

None of this is official either.  Things I see getting approved and not approved include (but not limited to):

 

  • It needs to look like a BB app.  Meaning it is using the BB supplied controls and are being used for their purposes.  Buttons are BB buttons, title bars are BB title bars, etc
  • Apps utilize gestures from an app bar to moving from one panel to another
  • App utilizes external services in a meaningful way and the use of the services flow in and out from the content currently being acted on
  • Location of actions are placed on an appropriate location to act on the governing content. Actions flow to additional content in a logical manner, and returns to the original content in a logical manner.
  • The user is consistently informed on the current state of their actions (an items is picked, it gets highlighted in blue.  Data is being accessed that is more then 0.5 second, the user sees an activity/progress indicator).
  • Icons are sized properly
  • Splash screen if startup is more than couple tenths of a second
  • Controls are sized to be easily selected and easily understood
  • App is built for a "BlackBerry Person", who "gets things done"
  • Apps serve a specific, well understood purpose
  • Apps are inter-connected
  • It looks good
  • It acts as one would expect as compared to similar apps (e.g. clock app updates it's time when minimized)

I've probably reviewed about a dozen apps for various people that have been rejected for BFB to hopefully give a little more information then they are getting from BFB reviewers.  This seems to be the overall pattern.

 

The other things that I am still trying to figure out are "single purpose apps".  Apps that do one basic thing.  Do those apps, no matter how well done they are, reach to the level of BFB?  I do not know. But so far, those have been rejected (from what I have seen), but have for other reasons listed above as well.  Not saying these are "fart" apps, but a fart app could be done really well, but it still does one basic thing -- play an audio file.  Is that a BFB app, even if the UI, services, flow, etc are done amazingly well?  Left for RIM to decide and make more clear to the community.

 

Most of the apps that I have reviewed have a very clear purpose and just need to clean up a bunch of UX items and consistency.  I enjoy doing this, because it also provide me the opportunity to make certain I stay on track with my own apps.  Once BFB apps become easy to download, they will be good to use a guides for correcting and adding more BFB apps.

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thubalek
Posts: 323
Registered: ‎10-01-2012
My Device: Dev Alpha C, Playbook 32 GB

Re: Upload BB10 App for 10k but rejected after that not response BFB team

Thanks for sharing this.

I'll most likely postpone my BB efforts for some time.

I'm still missing any meaningful response from BB and guessing game is not fun for me.

Also not much happy with time that fixing of things takes. I workarounded one BB bug and still waiting for review.

Will wait till situation stabilizes and in mean time will continue to work on my Android apps. It makes more sense to me right now.
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jtegen
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Re: Upload BB10 App for 10k but rejected after that not response BFB team

Have you posted your "meaningful" request to the appropriate forum(s)? It is infrequent to get "meaningful" information directly from RIM.