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[thesmileman]

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alexperri7 wrote:

I believe a couple of minutes for a full hard reset to boot up. The whole time it was booting up a cool PlayBook logo with background animation showed.

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hmmmm, I hope that was just your egarness telling you it was taking that long. every time I rebook my iphone I feel like it takes 3 minutes but I have timed it and it is less than 30 seconds.

[alexperri7]

Haha hopefully it was just that, but it still was kind of long. The RIM rep kept saying that it was an older build, but I believe the date stated that it was from sometime last week? Who knows. I was just too **bleep** excited finally seeing and using the PlayBook in person.

[lrrm]

http://crackberry.com/rim-asks-fcc-keep-playbook-details-under-wraps-until-launch

this sounds to me like we'll have to wait. if the fcc is asked not to publish details, RIM won't risk it to ship a couple of units into the wild. what I assume is, that we'll get the playbook excactly at april 19th (which is a bit pitty, because I'm at a dev con next week and would have loved it to show a bit off ).

[zezke]

I am really wondering if RIM added some kind of "hidden" feature. I do hope however it's better than Notion Ink's hidden feature (a FM radio).

[lrrm]

is fm still alive or has it been replaced by a digital version? dont know... do not own a classic radio.

[zezke]

In Europe it is still very alive. It's digital alternative, DAB, is used very little.

[jaxbot]

We still have FM radio here in the US (not that I listen it to, though.)

</OT> Deadline is over, so I assume they're getting the devices made as quick as they can... it'll take a while to get enough stock for initial launch plus however many developer devices they need.

[p3pp3r]

As far as I know they have been making them since mid february otherwise we would have another three estensions

[peter9477]

The boot-up time was in fact quite long, almost certainly well over two minutes.

On the other hand, that means almost nothing, regardless of whether it was a recent build or not.

1. It's extremely common, almost universal, for pre-release builds to contain significant portions of "debug" code, and to do things that the release units will not do.  The long time could easily have been because of this.

2. We didn't just power it off and then turn it back on.  Because of the qnx.systemtray crash (the whole OS didn't freeze up, just the system tray... still serious, but not as bad as if the whole thing froze), Mike had to do a hard reset on it using the magic sequence.  After a hard reset, many types of device take significantly longer to restart than they do after a simple power cycling.

3. Even if, in the I-think-unlikely case that it will take three minutes to reboot the released product, I don't think it really matters.  I will almost never actually have the device turned completely off.  Maybe for some use cases people will need to do that (long trip? forgot your charger and can't find a microUSB charger... very unlikely) but I think the vast majority of people may almost never do this operation.

[ajerman]

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lrrm wrote:

http://crackberry.com/rim-asks-fcc-keep-playbook-details-under-wraps-until-launch

this sounds to me like we'll have to wait. if the fcc is asked not to publish details, RIM won't risk it to ship a couple of units into the wild. what I assume is, that we'll get the playbook excactly at april 19th (which is a bit pitty, because I'm at a dev con next week and would have loved it to show a bit off ).

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Not really sure why crackberry posted that. Every single new product that comes out typically comes with a temporary confidentiality request until release, and a permanent confidentiality request for documents that could detail trade secrets. Not really anything new.