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Marc_Paradise
Posts: 155
Registered: ‎01-22-2010
My Device: PlayBook -> 9900, 9810, 9800, 9700,9000, 8800, 8700...
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Re: Apps can be extracted from the Playbook?

Odd - maybe this doesn't do the auto login redirects? What happens if you go to here first:

https://www.blackberry.com/jira


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sergeh
Posts: 123
Registered: ‎03-22-2011
My Device: curve 8900
My Carrier: Rogers

Re: Apps can be extracted from the Playbook?

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I have no problem going into the system and looking at other tickets but I can't seem to find yours and even if I manually type the url it still doesn't work. It does work for other tickets though

 

Actually the latest ticket I see is #182

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acowart
Posts: 163
Registered: ‎07-16-2008
My Device: Not Specified
My Carrier: Sprint

Re: Apps can be extracted from the Playbook?

I believe tickets are private by default, so users can submit tickets about confidential issues and not have to worry about non-RIM employees seeing it.  It'll probably be made public soon.

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peter9477
Posts: 6,473
Registered: ‎12-08-2010
My Device: PlayBook, Z10
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Re: Apps can be extracted from the Playbook?

@acowart is completely right, except for the "soon" part. I know of several apps I've submitted months ago that no one else can see yet, and some that others have submitted that I still can't see. The only option seems to be to ask the original submitted (e.g. Marc in this case) for updates, or for them to try to remember to come back here to post updates if there are any. (Submitters get notified by email of changes, generally.)

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CMY
Posts: 1,123
Registered: ‎02-10-2009
My Device: 8130 / 8350 / 9530 / 9550 / 9850 / PlayBook
My Carrier: Verizon

Re: Apps can be extracted from the Playbook?

I just have one comment pointed towards Marc_Paradise, it may not really matter anymore at this point, but don't you think it would be wise for you to remove your how-to on how to get the SWF files off the playbook from your post in the Crackberry forums...........

While most (if not all) developers on this forum would refrain unloading someone else's work, that is a public forum where I can tell you first hand, there are many people who will not hesitate.

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MSohm
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Registered: ‎07-09-2008
My Device: BlackBerry Z30, BlackBerry PlayBook
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Re: Apps can be extracted from the Playbook?

I have taken ownership of the Issue Tracker issue and made it publicly available, so everyone can see and vote on it.

I have also escalated internally within RIM.
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TheMarco
Posts: 669
Registered: ‎02-19-2011
My Device: BlackBerry PlayBook 32GB
My Carrier: Sprint

Re: Apps can be extracted from the Playbook?

Thanks Mark! I'm glad this issue is being treated seriously!

 

By the way, in all fairness it is indeed true that many platforms have easy ways to extract someone else's code. I suppose a super easy 'hole' to steal code is just something I didn't expect from a company that prides itself on it's security like RIM. That said, some are easy to prevent. On WebOS it's easy because the device can be rooted with no problem. Once on the device you can CD to wherever the apps are and copy them somewhere else. Had it not been possible to root the device this would be a whole lot harder. 

 

In this particular case a first 'patch' should probably be taking apps out of the whole backup routine. Apps can be (re)downloaded from AppWorld after signing in with a BB account since the system knows which apps we purchased. Secondly it would be nice if any thing downloaded from AppWorld would be encrypted so that even in case the user gets to the bar file they still can't access it's contents. It would also be nice if there would be something tied to a specific BB account in the encryption routine. That too will make redistribution harder.

Just some ideas really.

 

None of these things are perfect and I'm sure they're 'crackable' but at least they will make it less than trivial to steal code.

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shism2
Posts: 246
Registered: ‎12-13-2010
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Re: Apps can be extracted from the Playbook?

RIM could also make the backup format not so easily opened. They need to make up some format that's difficult to extract the sensitive data from.
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ObsidianX
Posts: 13
Registered: ‎03-26-2011
My Device: None
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Re: Apps can be extracted from the Playbook?

Hey folks,

 

I didn't read the whole thread so if this has been suggested then I apologize, but one thought I had is to use the QNX packages in your initialization code (even if you don't need it, just include it) to trigger a PPSChannel exception, preventing people from throwing it into a browser.

 

It doesn't protect you from PB->PB copying, but at least you won't lose your work to a browser (or worse, the internal browser!)

 

If this is silly then I'll just be on my way :smileyhappy:

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CMY
Posts: 1,123
Registered: ‎02-10-2009
My Device: 8130 / 8350 / 9530 / 9550 / 9850 / PlayBook
My Carrier: Verizon

Re: Apps can be extracted from the Playbook?

It's not entirely a silly thought, but as mentioned there are flash decompilers where someone could decompile and remove the offending code then recompile to put in a browser. Won't be able to put it on a PlayBook, but a browser would run it no problem.

From a good portion of the conversation though, a lot of people seem to be more worried about someone getting access to their code moreso than the app itself.

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