01-22-2013 12:16 PM - edited 01-22-2013 12:18 PM
Hahaha. Well if you feel that you should "have to", then that's lovely for you.
One last tidbit of advice...please stop saying that we all believe that the issues you face are "fine". As has been said so many times in this thread, that is simply not true. It is not "fine". However, it is what it is, and no one here has any power to change it. Rather, everyone here has tried to offer you assistance and information to help you figure out how to deal with it...but you continue to retort with telling us all how we feel. Doing that, my friend, is very insulting to the kind volunteers who have honestly tried to help you.
01-22-2013 12:19 PM
01-22-2013 12:21 PM
01-22-2013 12:23 PM
We are BlackBerry fans. We get frustrated with the devices at times as well.
Let me make an aside here... I and others here for a year and half have been helpful, kind, forthcoming and gracious in working with you, maybe at times a tad acerbic. Regardless, we keep coming back to help you out. Our pleasure. I have enjoyed helping you. We also tend to develop slight relationships with some users here, and you have been one.
But you can learn as well to be gracious. A simple thanks can mean a lot, especially when cast on top of your frustration, it softens your other words. So, today has been like a friend slapping me around after helping him out. You may not see that it that way, I do.
And, I',m done, again.
01-22-2013 12:25 PM
01-22-2013 01:44 PM
But it does demonstrate another way in which RIM is not hearing our woes. And this is a pretty big woe, frankly.
I do not agree with your demonstration.
First, because this issue is inherent to all Java phones. From the Nokia non-smartphone phones, to Android smartphones, and through current BlackBerry phones.
Secondly, the garbage collection method used in Java is not the best one, and it is quite difficult to deal with it other than by emptying everything brutally (= battery pull or other methods). This has been going on since OS4.0, and has aggravated progressively when people started installing apps.
The issues are (there are of course thousands of other issues ):
Has RIM taken care of those three issues correctly?
Not really. issue 4 is unacceptable. Many people try to advise users how to live with that.
Has RIM listened to our woes? Yes because:
That being said, of course it is easy for me to write all that. We are 8 days from the official launch of BlackBerry 10. I can't complain though, better in 8 days than in 8 months.
You have hung aroung this forum for some time, simon_a6, you do know that the contributors here try to help and be as positive as possible regarding all-things-BlackBerry. And when something cannot be changed, well, we deal with it in the best way possible.
01-23-2013 06:14 AM
Update on QuickPull App: it had an error when it did its reset.
I then did the manual reset and that cleared the memory issue and returned to over 82mb.
I have since left it to do it again tonight, so will see what happens in the morning.
01-29-2013 04:58 AM
I am using smartphones of apporx every OS including BlackBerry, Android & Apple.
Bi-mistake I bought 8 GB iphone and when I checked memory status later, showing 7 .5 GB used, where ? that God knows. No mail configured, text messages can be count on fingures and even 4 or 5 apps installed.
Searching for Solution of this since past 8 months no solutions till yet. Not a temp solutions as well.
Android is totally a kidee OS, even my 4 years daughter can handle that easily.
Your concern as a user point of view, May be acceptable but never look at once side of a coin & have a look on the other side, the knowledge base behind BlackBerry smartphones, support behind blackberry smartphones, security (BES_EXP) behind Blackberry smartphones awesome.
Here I am not praising BlackBerry and forcing anyone to do that, these are what I do feel by using BlackBerry & sharing here.
Overall, you can't compare CAR TYRE with Memory storage, yeah you can compare CAR Mileage with the Memory storage coz.... TYRE can be compared with hardware issue of Blackberry, if any.
& during service, we defiantly ask once to check mileage which is not constant . As a solution Mechanic says Stop engine, when to stop more than 2 mins or drive in between speed limits....this & that..!!
Atleast you have a temp solution to come out of the trouble & not a mathematical formulae to perform that...!!
Sorry, if I hurt anybodies heart...!!
01-29-2013 05:05 AM
Sorry but I don't agree where you say the Car Type analogy to be wrong.
A car tyre should not really go down, at least not to 1/4 pressure every day. So you don't expect to have to go and check it each time.
If it ran down to zero each day, you'd damage your wheel..... or in the 9900's case, lose emails!
So you have to make a manual attempt to check/restart it each day.
I've not heard of such an issue on other devices - that said, there are issues on one of the devices you mentioned, the issue being scratch resistence, or in the case of an 87 page forum thread, lack of!
01-29-2013 05:21 AM
If you need to PUMP your Tyre daily, that is definatly a manufacturing issue and Memory Low can't be compared with that.
If you think 512 MB is less memory then I would say most of the Database Owner not satisfy with TB space as well & I assure you, most of the users will complain, if Blackberry will come with more than 512 MB i.e.. 1 GB or 2 GB coz.. definatly they would have many other apps or materials which will utilize the space and they will demand for more space...!!!
Further I would Suggest you to Boot your handheld in Safe Mode and observe...!!
KB17877: How to start a BlackBerry smartphone in Safe Mode
Does still memory get sucked itself and needs reboot...Ensure to close app after use either a FB or any other..!!