07-08-2012 02:38 PM
If I turn on my home wifi & sign into it, & at the same time, leave Mobile Network on... which of these will the data charges run off of? Will the Mobile Network win out or does it share or just use wifi?
Also wondering because I wonder if turning on work wifi when I get to work, saves my data & runs off theirs lol
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07-08-2012 06:30 PM - edited 07-08-2012 06:32 PM
In general, BBs will "prefer" WiFi over the carrier data network for BIS services. You can always check, inside of Manage Connections > Services Status, what pathway BIS is using.
But, you also have to check inside of apps...many 3rd party apps have configuration items, inside the app, that allow you to direct the app to use one data channel versus another. What I always do is direct my apps to use BIS...that way, they will follow along as BIS shifts between WiFi and my carrier data network. But, if (e.g.) you configure an app to only use your carrier data network, then that app may well avoid following BIS when BIS shifts to WiFi, and that app may well continue to consume data off of your carrier data network connection, even though BIS has shifted to WiFi.
With older OS levels, you had no choice but to leave "Data Services" set to "on" no matter what channel you wanted to use, which often caused the situation described above (BIS on WiFi, but some app consuming carrier data)...turning off Data Services, on those older OS levels, turned BIS-level Data off for ALL Channels, including WiFi. With later OS levels (somewhere in the OS7 range, as I recall), you can actually turn off the Data Services setting and leave WiFi on...which allows BIS to still function over WiFi, but prevents any app from using the carrier data network no matter how the app is configured.
But...I am curious...you are asking about features that only work on BB SmartPhones, yet your profile on this site says you have only a PlayBook, in which case none of this applies since the PB has no mobile radio and has only WiFi. But, you posted this in the Bold section of this site, so one could I suppose assume that you have a Bold in addition to your PB...
07-08-2012 08:49 PM
Thank you for all of that info.!
I guess I need to update my profile because I now have a Bold 9900
I was asking because I find, to save battery, I turn wifi off & on, constantly! Leave home, turn it off. Get to work, turn it on. Turn if off in my office because I'm in a little pocket which doesn't quite reach a connection .. turn if on if I go for break lol... back off when I come back. & back on when I get home. Because, in between those places, if wifi is on with no nearby connection, it searches & searches, can't connect & wastes my battery in less than a day
So, I thought, if this is not using the wifi when I do have it on, (instead of using my Carrier), than I'm wasting my time turning this off & on, & should just leave it off. Then I thought.. if I leave it off, am I missing opportunity to use wifi when it's available & save data off the Carrier. So, I really didn't know how it all worked.
I also think.. am not too sure.. but it seems all these apps waste battery to, even if you are not in the app. I'm not sure how or why that happens.
I don't have a ton of apps but the few I've checked, I see no way in any of them, to direct them to one over the other but am glad to hear they will prefer wifi over carrier!
My husband just got a Bold 9900 from work & I think he's going to be miffed at how quickly the battery dies lol.
On a side note: I wish there was a way to log out of e-mail because I don't always want to pull it in.
Again, thank you so much. That was most helpful!
07-09-2012 09:15 AM
07-09-2012 02:53 PM
It seems to be wifi related. When I was not turning the wifi off & on I was going through the battery before my work day was even complete! (& I don't have a charger here.) Once I started turning it off when I was going out of range of wifi, and back on when back in range, the battery would last the full day. It's bad enough the battery lasts only 1 day when I am hardly using the phone. But to keep turning wifi off & on, manually, in order to save battery power, that is SUCH a pain in the behind!
I will try your suggestion to look for some app that will turn the wifi off on on. However, I'm not very good at searching the app world lol. Not much I enter into the search comes up.. .the few apps I've gotten, I ended up having to go directly to the app's web site to d/l it directly from the companying offering the app.
Really poor quality for battery life on these things. Really can't make it through 3/4's of a day before the battery has run out... BB really needs to do somthing about that.
07-09-2012 03:03 PM
The app I liked best, when I needed that, was called SmartWiFi, from S4BB Limited, available in AppWorld. I have no idea if they have ported it to your model/OS level or not.
Please understand that there is no "normal" for battery life. Each person has a unique set of apps, usage patterns, etc. that defines what is "normal to you". But that may not be normal for anyone else. Too many variables go into how long the battery lasts (e.g., amount of voice usage, amount of data usage, signal strength, etc.). So the trick is to understand what is "normal to you" and then notice when things deviate from that...for that is the time to consider looking into what may have changed on your BB to cause the deviation.
Also, be watching for OS updates...especially with newer devices, one can expect variations with OS levels. It is completely known that some of the most new OS levels may well cause memory and/or battery excessive usage. Some folks fall back to older OS levels if it becomes intolerable.
For me, I settled on having many chargers...one at each place of work, one in each car, one in my backpack at all times. At one point, I even had two spare batteries that I always tried to rotate (so as to keep them all fully charged). It is very normal to need to charge every night...that is one of the only "normal for all" things that I'd think can apply. Less than that will delve into that individual unique usage pattern territory.
Also consider your battery itself...a defective battery is certainly not out of the question. Further, be sure to take care of your battery...unlike older technologies, these batteries do not like to be drained. Doing so can actually damage them, eventually rendering them useless. If, as you say, you've drained it several times, then that as well could be causal to your situation...but, again, that depends on what is "normal for you".
07-09-2012 03:27 PM
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