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Registered: ‎02-03-2014
My Device: BlackBerry Curve 9300 3G
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Free Application Storage Space is fluctuating...

Hi!

 

My Dad gave me his old BB Curve 9300 3G, I usually Google out ways to fix problems, but this problem's solution I just can't make out....

This issue has been bugging me since the past week, each time I check the Free Application Storage space, it's changed. I formatted my phone today afternoon(due to this very problem), and there was around 60-70 MB free space(whereas It should have been above 100 MB). Anyways I installed a few apps like WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and MemBoo. This evening, I downloaded a few apps(not even totaling upto 5 MB) and my storage space fell to 35.3 MB. There's this "Other" Storage taking upto 50 MB, and being displayed in he yellow color. I don't think it's the application data, since I have hardly any apps THAT big and my phone's internal memory is also pretty empty except the built-in stuff. I have a 2 GB SanDisk MicroSD. I have uploaded a screenshot as well for better understanding.

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The list of 3rd Party Installed apps:-

BeamExplorer File Manager - 324KB

Facebook Messenger - 1MB

MemBoo - 36KB

Opera Mini - 610KB

Screen Grabber Free - 245KB

Signal Booster Free - 423KB

WhatsApp - 6MB

 

Please Help!!

 

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Re: Free Application Storage Space is fluctuating...

Hi and Welcome to the Community!

There are three types of potential memory on a BB: 1) Application Memory, 2) Device Memory, and 3) Media/SD Card Memory.

Application Memory -- This is the most crucial; it is the protected (not user accessible), dedicated, and fixed (in size) space that is available as the destination for the installation of applications (plus some application storage, overhead and such). You cannot touch AppMemory. You cannot improve the maximum AppMemory that your BB has. It is what it is. Applications can only install here...there is no option. The value will fluctuate constantly as the various databases are written to, records deleted, etc.

Device Memory -- This is space on your BB that you can touch to store files, pictures, media, etc. Typically, it is not terribly large, but it is available to you.

SD/Media Card Memory-- This is what it says...your SD card, for you to store files, media, pictures, etc. It can be as large as your BB OS can support...see this KB:

  • KB05461MicroSD card sizes supported by the BlackBerry device software

On some devices/OS levels, you can only see "File Free" (Options > Status), which I think is equivalent to AppMemory. On other devices, you can see all three memory usage levels (Options > Memory). Here are some guidelines to use:

  • KB02843What is the Low Memory Manager feature on the BlackBerry smartphone
  • KB14320How to maximize free space and battery power on the BlackBerry smartphone
  • KB14213Call logs, SMS text messages, and email messages are deleted from the BlackBerry smartphone

Lastly, it is always important to properly close applications when you are done with them. Using the Back or the Red key will not do this -- those leave it to the app to decide what to do...and some will leave themselves resident in memory, consuming resources on your BB, slowing the overall performance. Rather, to close an app, press blackberry_logo.jpg and select "Close" or "Exit"...that will force the application to be closed, freeing up for your new use the resources it was consuming. Some apps will always remain running (typically -- BBMessenger, Browser, Homescreen, Phone, and Messages)...but, you should still close them properly - especially the Browser...if it is left on an active web page, it will not only consume extra resources but battery power as well.

Further, anytime random strange behavior or sluggishness creeps in, the first thing to do is a battery pop reboot. With power ON, remove the back cover and pull out the battery. Wait about a minute then replace the battery and cover. Power up and wait patiently through the long reboot -- ~5 minutes. See if things have returned to good operation. Like all computing devices, BB's suffer from memory leaks and such...with a hard reboot being the best cure. Some have taken to doing this on a regular basis as a preventive measure...some as frequently as once per day. Others have obtained the QuickPull app to automate a simulated Batt-Pull.

Good luck!




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Re: Free Application Storage Space is fluctuating...

Thanks sdgardne, but I have already read that post several times on the BB forum. I don't think the battery-pull helps in my case. I'd also like to repeat that it's the "Application Storage" that is fluctuating, and I don't have very frequent lags.

 

BTW, I'm really impressed by the responsiveness!

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Registered: ‎11-28-2008
My Device: Z30, Z10 & Q10 (10.3.1.2267), Playbook (2.1.0.1526)

Re: Free Application Storage Space is fluctuating...

AppMemory (which I think is what you refer to as "Application Storage") will indeed fluctuate all the time. Data is constantly being written to, deleted from, and changed within the various databases that share that same memory space. It's not just apps that go there...it's also the OS itself plus data also goes there as well for all of the protected databases that contain data for messages, calendar, contacts, etc.

AppMemory is a fixed maximum value, that is consumed based on a number of factors -- the specific OS you install, the options within that OS you select, the apps you install, and the data you contain within the core apps. There is no "normal" amount of free AppMemory to quote...it depends on each individual users choices of the above. And, if one of the chosen apps happens to have a memory leak of some kind, it will cause AppMemory to be consumed and not returned, eventually dwindling to zero free.

Free AppMemory of 33.5MB is normally an adequate value in most cases, as it allows for the constant add/change/delete of data within those protected databases. But I have never found utility in attempting to calculate what free AppMemory should be...rather, just install what I need and see what's left, then see how that holds, and if it fluctuates too far from that "normal" level, then I look into if I've got an app with a memory leak. But truly calculating what the value should be is not something I've ever found utility in attempting.

Good luck!



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Re: Free Application Storage Space is fluctuating...

Thanks sdgardne!

I think that you are right!

Sorry for bothering!

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Re: Free Application Storage Space is fluctuating...

You are most welcome. It is not a bother at all...helping others understand how these things work is precisely why I participate here.

Cheers!



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