09-02-2010 03:50 PM - edited 09-02-2010 04:30 PM
Let me fist say I apprciated everyone's concern with this matter. It is no small matter and Blackberry seems to be ignoring it. This is very irresponsible of them and a bad business decision as well. I'm don't know if they just dont care, are not willing to spend the money to make their phones internet software filterable. I have spoke to Verizon Wireless, Blackberry technicial assistance, and have searched for filtering software I could purchase and I was unable to find anything. I would even pay a premium for it, even though I think Blackberry should offer it for free if they would like to keep us (and there are a lot of us) as clients.
I want to STRONGLY ENCOURAGE everyone to do what I have done. I repeat this is no small matter! I AM GETTING RID OF MY BLACKBERRY and encouraging everyone I know to do the same. That may sound extreme, but I believe it is a small price to pay to protect ourselves from the parasite that pornorgraphy is. Verizon Wireless customer service was very helpful and suggested a number of other phones they carry that would meet my needs and that do have internet filtering capabilities. Further, given how strongly I expressed my concern, and my being a long time customer of Verizon they gave me an early upgrade to save me money on replacing my Blackberry. GOOD FOR VERIZON, SHAME ON BLACKBERY! If your Blackberry is provided by your company and you have no choice to switch to a diffrerent type of phone I encourage you to get all the employees you can together and submit a complaint to your company so your company will submit a complaint to Blackberry.
09-02-2010 04:00 PM
I dont see how this is Blackberry's responsibility? They give the device the ABILITY to connect to the internet. Your service provider is the one that grants you access to the internet. They would be the ones to add a content filter. Blackberry cannot be held accountable for what their users access on a wireless carriers network.
09-02-2010 04:08 PM
Verizon has distinctly advised me that there is no way for them to filter the internet for Blackberry. If they have the ability to provide filtering for Palm and the Droid, why not Blackberry?
09-02-2010 04:39 PM
Then they simply havent provisioned/enabled it. I know of 3 providers that can set content filters regardless of the device. Again, Blackberry makes the device capable, the carrier provides service, after that, what the user views is out of their hands.
Its like trying to blame the manufacturer of a modem for something your ISP would be responsible for.
09-02-2010 06:26 PM
What would your response to this statement be?
Why cant Verizon content filter internet service on Blackberry?
The BlackBerry was a dominant business device and only recently has come into children's hands and Verizon is working to content filter the web as well. BlackBerry has its own proprietery web service unlike Android, Palm or WindowsMobile phones which use the Verizon web service which is filtered.
09-02-2010 07:11 PM
I think your missing my point.
Blackberry puts the ability to connect to the internet on their phone, your carrier grants you access to the internet via their network (or wifi in some cases). It is the users who must take responsibility for whatever they use their phone for. I mean, why not blame Blackberry for there being porn on the internet to begin with?
It is like if say... I make an axe and tailor it to do a job (i.e. split wood), and I sell said axes to the masses. Then a handful of people decide to use these axes to kill... who has blood on their hands?
I'm just saying that the users should take responsibility for the sites they access (or at least keep in mind who it is that they buy a phone for)
I don't know, it all just seems somewhat ludicrous to me.
09-02-2010 10:23 PM
We may both be misunderstood. I agree that Blackberry has never caused anyone to visit any pornography site, and that we are all individually responsible for our actions. However their irresponsibility lies in that they are unwilling to provide, or make it possible for others to provide internet filtering that would protect its users from that type of content if they want to be protected.
Why would Blackberry not provide or allow filtering of thier internet content when that is clearly something its users want/need. There are many other phone manufacturers that provide this service. So I stand my ground and say, "if Blackberry will not provide or allow filtering if its internet content and that is something you want/need, get rid of your Blackberry device and give your business to a manufacturer that will provide that service."
The discussion in this thread was begun by Blackberry customers who were looking for that type of filtering and could not find it. I simply, but strongly suggested an answer to a problem they had a serious concern about.
09-03-2010 11:20 AM
Thank you for keeping this discussion alive. I agree that Blackberry should, as most if not all other internet providers do, provide the opportunity for filtering. Then the users can decide whether or not they want to filter. Without that provision, we have no choice, within their product (which for some of us is also provided us with limited choice). In this economy, I can't simply quit my job just because of a phone choice.
09-09-2010 09:38 AM
I can't agree more with Rclauidin. Raelic, to continue your analogy, if a toy maker is making a toy which ends up being quite commonly abused/dangerous in some manner, there is a hue and cry for them to be responsible and try to improve protections, etc to prevent it. So although they're not actually causing the danger to happen, they're held to a standard which says, "you know this easily happens, you should make reasonable steps to prevent it or help in some way."
I think that rclaudin's point isn't that they should be forced to, but that they should pay the price if they so obviously don't want to facilitate it. It makes good businiess sense, and simple societal responsibility sense. I'm forced to use a bbry at work, and have gotten my IT manager to disable the internet on it. If I had a choice, I'd be going with a completely different product - they'd lose my business instantly.
09-13-2010 11:42 AM
As encouragement to anyone else who believes they want/need their internet service filtered on their phone. Do whatever it takes to protect yourself from pornography on you phones, computers, etc. I came across this passage over the weekend. "Keep to a path far from her, do not go near the door of her house." - Proverbs 5:8 This passage is reverring to an immoral woman, and wisdom pleads with us to keep far from her. In wisdom it tells us to not even go near her. How close is your phone every day? I encourage you to read all of Proverbs 5, 6, and 7.