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BES Planning

i'm planning a solution for a big BES deployment. It should be up to 5000 users in an Exchange 2010 organization.

I'm considering to use 4 virtual machines, each with 4 CPU and 8gb of ram.

I'm puzzled with blackberry domains:

should I go with 4 BES servers, each with its own SQL express o with a single BES Domain sharing a single database?

I understand that in the 2nd situation  I might have a single admin site, centralized policies and so on. But what about SRP license? Do  I still need a single SRP license? 

Thank anybody for hints

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Re: BES Planning

with that many users I would use Full SQL, SQL express might not be robust enough for that many users if using one BlackBerry domain ( one database )

 

With separate databases/BlackBerry domains you will have to config each BES separately which isnt not fun in the long run.

 

You will need a SRP for each BES. you can have 2000 per BES so maybe only 3 SRPs will be needed for you.

 

Youcan have more than one BAS instance but dont go over board. keep it under 4 if you really need that many. You might want to have a separate BAS server for this too.

 




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Re: BES Planning

thank you for the answer.
if i use multiple BES domains can i have a centralized BAS administration? i don't think so, do you?
if i use only 3 BES servers, is that solution stable enough? i have concerns to run so many users (2000) on a single BES server. are you experienced about this?
about SQL express: in the deployment is not forecasted a SQL Server, so i'd like to avoid the license charge: is there any official document about SQL usage and performance with BES?
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Re: BES Planning


babaishere82 wrote:
thank you for the answer.
if i use multiple BES domains can i have a centralized BAS administration? i don't think so, do you? NO you can not

if i use only 3 BES servers, is that solution stable enough? i have concerns to run so many users (2000) on a single BES server. are you experienced about this?  It is made for 2000 per BES Server MAX although I know some that have run more with great hardware.
about SQL express: in the deployment is not forecasted a SQL Server, so i'd like to avoid the license charge: is there any official document about SQL usage and performance with BES? not that I am aware of but SQL express does have some limits with backups and you really need backups with that many users.
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With setting up 5000 users you should do it right the first time and use a full version of SQL.

Do you have a SQL server already? if yes then just add BES database to it.

 

My bes is about 4 meg per user with the database. 5000*2 meg per user means database might be too big for express as it is limited to 10 gig.

 

BlackBerry Enterprise Server for Microsoft Exchange - 5.0 - Performance Benchmarking Guide -- 3

 




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Re: BES Planning

all made clear by your answers, many thanks for that.
just another quick hint here: if i were to choose the multiple bes domains solution, i see there is an issue with the greater administrative burden; but is there any issue else i cannot imagine right now?
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Re: BES Planning


babaishere82 wrote:
all made clear by your answers, many thanks for that.
just another quick hint here: if i were to choose the multiple bes domains solution, i see there is an issue with the greater administrative burden; but is there any issue else i cannot imagine right now?


There should not be. You can use transporter to move users from one BES to another. The admin burden will make you go a lil crazy when looking for a user and not knowing which BES they are on. Yes you can make a list but why make it more difficult on you.

 




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Re: BES Planning

to save money for the license ;-)
Knotty, thank you so much, i my mind is lighter now.
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Re: BES Planning

you welcome glad to have helped out

 




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