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moyer_jason
Posts: 22
Registered: ‎08-13-2009
My Device: Not Specified

Device and data connection

Hey All,

 

I am curious how the blackberry device connects to the internet.

 

Is there a diagram or something.

 

We have  BES 4.1.6 on MSDE and devices are 8700 through TMobile.

 

I was wondering do the devices normally use the Tmobile network for browsing the net or go through the BES server.

 

Thanks as always.

 

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knottyrope
Posts: 30,779
Registered: ‎06-25-2008
My Device:

I'm rockin the BlackBerry Passport, Z30, Z10, Q10, BlackBerry Mini Stereo Speaker, 64 gig PlayBook, BlackBerry Wireless Headset HS-700

My Carrier: I am on AT&T. Please edit your Personal Profile with your DEVICE TYPE, DEVICE OS and Carrier

Re: Device and data connection


moyer_jason wrote:

Hey All,

 

I am curious how the blackberry device connects to the internet.

 

Is there a diagram or something.

 

We have  BES 4.1.6 on MSDE and devices are 8700 through TMobile.

 

I was wondering do the devices normally use the Tmobile network for browsing the net or go through the BES server. Both unless you block them.

 

Thanks as always.

 


KB15242 - How to use IT policy rules to disable browsers on the BlackBerry smartphone

 




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CerealBypass
Posts: 616
Registered: ‎03-25-2009
My Device: BlackBerry Curve 9360

Re: Device and data connection

This is actually a really good question and worth elaborating on a little more. I get asked this pretty frequently.

 

If we're talking strictly about browsing the web with the BlackBerry smartphone, there's essentially two ways to do it.

 

Internet Browser

Every BlackBerry smartphone with the BlackBerry Internet Browsing Service (BIBS) provided to it by the carrier is able to access the web directly using the Internet Browser (aka the IBS Browser). In this case, the browser talks to the carrier's network and then connects to the Internet. Nothing is routed through your BES and your network.

 

BlackBerry Browser

If a BlackBerry user does not have (BIBS) as part of their data service from the carrier, but still wants to browse, all is not lost. Using the BlackBerry Browser (aka the MDS Browser) the user can browse. The request is then sent through the carrier's network back to the BES which then makes the HTTP request on behalf of the user and pushes the result back out to the device. In this case, the BES is effectively doing the browsing for the device and the device is only talking to the BES. Consequently, anything the BES can see, the device can see. This includes internal websites. Things get a little more interesting when you take into account the fact that you can route the BES web traffic through a proxy, thus allowing you to monitor what your users are browsing on their devices.

 

Both browsers can be controlled by IT policy as my friend knotty posted.

 

It's worth mentioning the third browsing option, which would be the WAP browser that is exclusively provided by the carrier. This browser makes use of only the carrier network and does not require any type of BlackBerry specific data plan, however, many carriers do charge a fee for its use.

 

 

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OzBBerry42
Posts: 1,078
Registered: ‎05-26-2008
My Device: 8300

Re: Device and data connection

Good question and a Very Good Answer....

 

 

 

Someone should sticky this.... ,hint, hint> 

:smileywink:

 



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bowillis
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎06-25-2009
My Device: Not Specified

Re: Device and data connection

How do you determine which browser you are using?
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knottyrope
Posts: 30,779
Registered: ‎06-25-2008
My Device:

I'm rockin the BlackBerry Passport, Z30, Z10, Q10, BlackBerry Mini Stereo Speaker, 64 gig PlayBook, BlackBerry Wireless Headset HS-700

My Carrier: I am on AT&T. Please edit your Personal Profile with your DEVICE TYPE, DEVICE OS and Carrier

Re: Device and data connection

you look on the HH and see the default browser if it is not set in IT policy.

 

KB16463 - How to change the default browser on a BlackBerry smartphone

 




Click here to Backup the data on your BlackBerry Device! It's important, and FREE!


Click "Accept as Solution" if your problem is solved. To give thanks, click thumbs up
Click to search the Knowledge Base at BTSC and click to Read The Fabulous Manuals

BESAdmin's, please make a signature with your BES environment info.


SIM Free BlackBerry Unlocking FAQ
Follow me on Twitter @knottyrope


Want to thank me? Buy my KnottyRope App here


BES 12 and BES 5.0.4 with Exchange 2010 and SQL 2012 Hyper V


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BlondMobile
Posts: 10
Registered: ‎11-10-2009
My Device: Not Specified

Re: Device and data connection

is there a way to monitor the data usage? Both from the BES and from the device?

 

For example,  if I would like to monitor how much internet data I'm using, is there a way to do so?

 

What API I should be looking for?

 

Thanks

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CerealBypass
Posts: 616
Registered: ‎03-25-2009
My Device: BlackBerry Curve 9360

Re: Device and data connection

The BES doesn't keep track of data usage. This would be something that would have to be checked by the carrier.

 

I know some carriers used to tell you how much data you used when you dial #DATA on the device. Not sure if that still works. Here in Canada, you can check your data usage online.

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