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ObliteRon
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Registered: 05-05-2009
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BES 5.0 and LCS/Windows Messenger

Hello all. Long time lurker, first time poster. Are we allowed to ask BES 5 install questions here? If so, here's mine...

 

I provisioned a new virtual machine for a clean install of BES 5.0. I have MSMQ installed (just the Common component) on Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard, but the BES install doesn't seem to show the Windows Messenger settings for LCS; it only asks for Communicator Web Access settings. Based on the documentation, this should still be an available configuration. What am I overlooking?

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ShortCircuit
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Re: BES 5.0 and LCS/Windows Messenger

The use of Live Communication Server 2005 is still possible but only using HTTP/HTTPS for the connection type.  On the IM Client Support Matrix you'll see that only 2.x clients are listed as 'Recommended' with BlackBerry Enterprise Server version 5.0.  These clients are only compatible with HTTP/HTTPS as the transport. 
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ObliteRon
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Re: BES 5.0 and LCS/Windows Messenger

Thanks for the reply. So, out of curiosity what is the Windows Messenger support mentioned in the documentation applicable to?
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ShortCircuit
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Re: BES 5.0 and LCS/Windows Messenger

Which piece of documentation are you specifically looking at?

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ObliteRon
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Re: BES 5.0 and LCS/Windows Messenger

You know, I am trying to remember which document(s) I referred to and can't find it. I wonder if I mixed up 4.1 documentation with 5.0 at one point...

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ShortCircuit
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Re: BES 5.0 and LCS/Windows Messenger

That happens to me all the time.  I did look around a bit though and I think I may have found what you read.  First though some background for anyone following this thread who isn't aware of the options in BES 4.1.  In the past Windows® Messenger meant that TCP/TLS would be used for the connection to the Live Communications 2005 Server. The other option was Office Communicator which used HTTP/HTTPS.  For Office Communications Server 2007, only HTTP/HTTPS were available.

 

In the BlackBerry Enterprise Server for Microsoft Exchange - Upgrade Guide for version 5.0 it is mentioned on several pages as upgrading from the "BlackBerry Collaboration Service for use with Windows® Messenger".  It's not really clear here that it means upgrading to HTTP/HTTPS, but I believe that was the writer's intent.  In the troubleshooting section on page 61 and 62 of that document it says "If the instant messaging in your organization's environment supports Windows® Messenger with TLS".  I believe this is meant as HTTP over TLS, since TLS is essentially the successor to SSL.

 

I agree that this is rather unclear and I will suggest that it be updated.  Thanks for bringing this up, I'm sure many other people will encounter the same question.

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