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Hothead
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Registered: ‎11-30-2012
My Device: Playbook 32GB

Re: Playbook experience and children

My comment was not meant to extend to the forum but rather the official support system that I want through that took over two hours and was not a great experience. I apologize if you felt that extended to the forum as it does not. I appreciate all the answers and even the parenting advice which even if misplaced made me laugh :smileywink: I do love playing the games with them which I do and buying them for them which I also do but they also get to explore on their own. I just did not like the fact that it is to easy to delete an app and lose all data and there is little I can do about it along with the other parental controls that are lacking that I refered to already. I bought the devices to delight my children not to ruin their morning when they discover all their hard earn progress is gone. Sure I can teach them not to delete apps but there are a lot of other lessons I would rather teach them and if for some reason the device needs to be replaced, there will be nothing I can do. Glad that my post has generated a decent discussion.

 

I especially appreciate Ross' comment among others. Thanks.

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jarviser
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Registered: ‎02-28-2012
My Device: Two PB's

Re: Playbook experience and children

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I dont think the parental advice given was at all misplaced.  if you give a kid a £200 piece of glass to play with that can also view heaven knows what on the net, you as a parent take the risk and you need to coach and teach. Technology is no protection from technology

 

And tell the boy that losing his game scores is nothing compared to waking up every day cold and hungry next to a Mumbai railway track, or even living in you car in Detroit. 

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Hothead
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Registered: ‎11-30-2012
My Device: Playbook 32GB

Re: Playbook experience and children

Are you serious? Really? I am now not sure why I am wasting my time communicating here but I will respond to the two points:

 

1) My entire point is that on other platforms, you don't need to worry much about it. You can prevent them from installing software or doing various activities. The have iPod Touches. They have never lost anything that we have not been able to recover including save game data. They have never viewed anything in any app that we have not wanted them to because controls are in place to handle it. That is where the standard is for the industry and I was pointing out that there are some simple changes to put a few safeguard in place that could be done to help with that. There is a lot I don't like about Apple's big brother appoach which is why I was looking for an alternative when it came to tablets. I also wanted to support RIM. Given devs never come here, this was the wrong audience to bring it up with so I have found an email 'feedback@rim.com' that I have now used to send in my feedback. Up to now, it has been a nice discussion about this topic here in these forums but I am afraid that you have now taking it too far and frankly way off topic.

 

2) Now who is being insulting? Raising my children is my business not yours. Don't assume what I am teaching and telling them or not nor tell me what I should talk to them about. Perhaps I could buy your comment about teaching them how to handle technology but your second comment presumes too much and is just inflamatory and inappropriate. Is this really how you treat one another here in these forums--forums about BlackBerry devices where users are trying to help one another with tech issues and discussing the platform in general? I would have expected more but I guess this forum suffers from the same as most and trolls live here too and in case some one thinks I am being insulting, I am using the term troll as defined as "someone who posts inflammatory, extaneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

 

Perhaps my original point about support does indeed stretch into the quality of the forums as well. What a pleasant experience coming here.

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Re: Playbook experience and children

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Great points, jarviser.

 

I'm guessing that when the five year old pressed the DELETE button in AppWorld, and was then asked to confirm the deletion by pressing "OK", he had no idea what "OK" or "CANCEL" would do next? Kids are curious, they will explore and cross-lines they should not.

 

Our job as parents is to guide them to understand which crossed-lines may leave to devastation and pain. I don't think the child was devastated in this case. I believe he likely got upset, cried, and ultimately learned a very non-painful lesson with very few repercussions.

 

Daddy re-purchased the game and all is right in the Adrenaline world, a game which I might note that is rated T for Teen ages 13+ to include "mild or infrequent sexual content" "profanity or crude humor", "references to drugs and/or alcohol".

 

Not good choices for four and five year olds. But that is Dad's choice, with no commentary on my behalf except to point it out. He will be insulted yet again if offered parenting advice here, so I shall not.

 

I am sure I will yet again be chastised by or Hothead or  for my post(s) and/or misplaced parenting advice. The OP brought up these issues, it's a public forum and I don't at all believe RIM is at all responsible for parenting of the 4 and 5 year old.

 

Yes, the PlayBook could have better parenting controls. Again, I agree.

**edited**

 

 




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Hothead
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Registered: ‎11-30-2012
My Device: Playbook 32GB

Re: Playbook experience and children

I can see that posting comments that are constructive criticism of Blackberry here in these forums is a useless gesture. Rather than accept some valid criticism it is easier to attack. Glad to see BB has such stalwart fans even if some of the enthusiasm is misplaced.

 

I played the game before letting my kids and everything in the rating is contained in the audio commentary of the co-driver that I turned off. I advise others who want a quality and very fun racing game to check out the game as it is one of the best racing games on the Blackberry store but consider doing the same with the audio.

 

And thanks JSanders for the over so subtle hint that I perhaps should not have been a parent. Your picture choice for your avatar is very appropriate.

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Re: Playbook experience and children

I was not attacking personally. I do agree there should be more parental controls but RIM did not put them in yet. Maybe kids access was not intended at first. BB10 which is around the corner might open up more options but we wont know until then.

 

Game saves have been an issue with playbook and the phones for a while. I know even other makers had some issues with theirs as people at work asked me for help in the past.

 




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Re: Playbook experience and children

[ Edited ]

Hothead, it is what it is. Touché.

 

I apologize for that subtle hint. Edited and removed.




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Re: Playbook experience and children

I set this up at home. its free and they cant surf for porn on their wifi router

http://www.opendns.com/home-solutions/parental-controls/

 




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Re: Playbook experience and children

I was thinking the same thing. Thought I'd been genuinely helpful and considerate.

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Re: Playbook experience and children

I am my mom's child, and indeed I have on several occasions tried to delete an application instead of upgrading it. Especially when sometimes the order of the buttons change.

just my 2cents.



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