BlackBerry Push Development

[pli]

Hi, expert, from this link: http://supportforums.blackberry.com/t5/BlackBerry-Push-Development/Push-registration-returns-rc-1000..., that we need the Service Book called "Blackberry Internet Browsing Service" or "BIS-B". From the push service page, I saw that too. 

It worried me a little. We are going support our agent for device with BES with Push by using blackberry infrastructure. Will "Blackberry Internet Browsing Service" be always available for device associated with BES? If not, it would be big constraint for using push service from Blackberry infrastructure.  I tesed on my device which is associated with a BES, however I am not sure it will work for all the cases. Could any one confirm on this? 

[massimo_olive · Accepted solution]

Pushing to BES only devices is done through the BES server not the BIS push server. This is why enterprises like the BlackBerry solution because they control their own devices and have option to don't allow outside 3rd parties from interacting with the devices. Some enterprises allow BIS service books on device and some don't - its company policy.

[pli]

Thanks for the info. From my reading, that doesn't mean that the device needs to have "Blackberry Internet service" although that we call it BIS push, however blackberry really calls it push services thru blackberry infrastructure (see this page: http://us.blackberry.com/developers/platform/pushapi.jsp#tab_tab_pricing which only talks about "BlackBerry® Internet Bundle Browsing Data Transport" ) Or am I wrong here? On my phone, I didn't configure any email address for internet, however at service status screen, my Blackberry Internet Service has connection of Mobile network.

If so, do company need to pay extra money for this BIS? I am a little confused on this right now.

[pli]

Actually from this page http://us.blackberry.com/developers/platform/pushapi.jsp, it is clear:

>>The ability to push to both public (BlackBerry® Internet Service) and enterprise (BlackBerry® Enterprise Server) applications using a single SDK and server-side application 

Device would need BIS (BlackBerry Internet Service) to accept push through blackberry infrastructure. I guess blackberry infrastructure  is inter-changeable term as BIS. So push thu Blackberry Infrastructure would really mean push thru  BIS.

Push thru Blackberry infrastructure works on my BB device from Fiberlink which is associate with a BES server, so I thought that this is not a problem.

Apparently it is a little complex than that. 

What really needs from BIS in push is the Blackberry Internet Browsing service, from their doc, it also says this:

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Some airtime service providers might

not offer Internet browsing functionality with a subscription to the BlackBerry® Internet Service. Check with your service provider for availability, roaming arrangements, service plans and features

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For the BES IT policy to block BIS push, are you talking about this IT policy? Could you confirm?

Firewall Block Incoming Messages IT policy

ruleDescription: This rule specifies whether the BlackBerry® device firewall prevents the BlackBerry device from processing specific types ofincoming messages, including SMS text messages, MMS messages, public and organization-specific PIN messages, and BlackBerry® Internet Service messages.

[pli]

Did more testing on this.

I am able to register on device with BES association. I am able to push message. I am not able to disable the push message even if I configured the IT policy "Firewall Block Incoming Messages IT policy" at BES server to disallow the BIS message. I also configured filewall to block BIS message, somehow I am still able to receive the BIS push. So at this point, I am not sure how to disable push at device with BES association.

[pli]

close this for now although that I am still not able to disable BIS push. However it is confirmed we would need BIS connection for the push thru the blackberry infrastructure.