08-26-2010 10:19 AM
My Torch is BRAND NEW also and freezes, almost with every click, irrelevent if I navigate via the touch screen or the track pad... reminds me of the old AOL dial-up days! Totally unacceptable for my needs!!! Are we awaiting a patch as one other poster referenced, or is this simply a design/ hardware flaw? I need to make a move b/c I can't work like this. Sure makes it hard to continue to avoid the iPhone.
08-26-2010 02:46 PM
Torch has real issues. Did not want to believe that the under powered processor (older processor from previous models) would be an issue but I suspect that it is the root of all problems related to locking up. My Torch locks up for at least 10 seconds everytime I unlock it. Waiting for a device to respond is not an acceptable process for me. It should work as fast or faster than me. That is absolutely intolerable. I find it hard to believe that RIM would develop a new product with a new operating system to compete with all other choices and use an old processor. Its going back for a refund. When BB gets it right, let me know.
BTW, I have shut down as many apps as possible as not to stress the processor and no difference.
Posted this in another thread but my comments should be here as this is exactly the problem I'm having:
Like others in this thread I have to lock my device due to it being used for business. 95% of the time when I unlock my phone it locks up and becomes unresponsive for 5-10 seconds. This is incredibly annoying and I hope its resolved in whatever OS updates RIM has planned. I am getting use to most of the other changes on the phone (loved my 9700) but this locking up is about enough to make me want to use another device.
08-26-2010 11:29 PM
I have an RMA from AT&T, It goes back tomorrow. Cannot work this way. Moving back to my 9700. Send them all back to RIM, they will hopefully get the message and fix it. Another huge annoyance is the fact that I mute or put my calls on hold when my ear touches the screen when I am on the phone.
This has to be the worst BB I have had, and I have had them ALL. Such a disappointment.
08-30-2010 12:19 AM - edited 08-30-2010 12:22 AM
No problems lanuching any single app here - operations are all very snappy. I've also not seen any troubles when unlocking -it's always instant though occassionally *lock* takes 1-2 seconds. However - it's also likely that at any given time (even when doing nothing at all except looking at the screen) the clock will appear and block everything for 3-10 seconds.
When the wait cursor goes away, almost everything that I did while it was runing gets processed - so if I touched the screen when the wait cursor was up, it will process the "touch" after the clock goes away. The exception here is that a subset of the keyboard inptu seems to get lost - perhaps it can only hold a limited amount when showing the clock.
This was a factory-clean 9800 install; several apps were installed but carried over via my AppWorld installation. Nothing was installed via device transfer (as I've had that break too many things -- even the first time I set up my Torch, it broke apps...). Several games (not running when the issue occurs); the only apps that would have startup components are those provided by RIM (various IM clients, facebook, twitter, et al) and one that I wrote myself and verified as not contributing (it terminates shortly after running at startup).
I don't think this is a CPU performance isue - to see the difference, run a poorly written app (like Audible's horrid player for their audiobooks) and try to play a game at the same time. The audio continues in the background with occasionally missed speech; and gameplay is very sluggish. The phone gets hot as teh CPU is taxed -- but this doesn't cause freezes/lockups of any duration.
Instead, it seems like something is grabbing a critical resource and not letting it go - causing all apps in the system to get blocked from running.
This is my second 9800 - the first one was returned due to camera issues not seen in the second one; and both devices have had the same problem. I also have tried both the official OS6 and the leaked OS6; and the behavior is exhibited in both.
(Outside of this, I'm actually very h appy with the phone - my favorite so far. I just hope this gets fixed.)
08-31-2010 05:46 PM
So, I see everyone complaining about the lag and I have the same issue. It is a business phone and is therefor password protected. When I type in my password to access new emails, SMS, etc, it can take anywhere from 10-20 seconds before I can do anything. Including simply touching the email icon to launch.
So, is there an answer yet? CPU or OS? I have 15 more days to return it and if this is the best it is going to get, not acceptable.
That being said, once it does "wake up" it runs fairly smooth. And no, I don't have a bunch of killer apps on it.
08-31-2010 06:01 PM
08-31-2010 09:09 PM
I am having the same problematic issues as well. First, I used "Switch Device Wizard" to move my data from my 9700 to the 9800 with major freezing issues. Then the second time, I did a factory reset and reloaded everything from scrach with out DM and I am still getting the same freezing issues.
I am very disapointed in BlackBerry for putting out such a shotty product. I have been a faithful BlackBerry user since the 8700c. This is very frustrating and unlike RIM.
The device's hardware is built solid, like a typical BlackBerry, but the software of this phone is way to buggy. Hopefully there is a software update in the works or the 9800 is getting returned and I am switching to the Captivate.
I'm rockin the BlackBerry Passport, Z30, Z10, Q10, BlackBerry Mini Stereo Speaker, 64 gig PlayBook, BlackBerry Wireless Headset HS-700
09-01-2010 09:51 AM
Option, Device, Application Management is a great way to see what your apps are doing with your CPU usage on #Torch. Just slide top bar to CPU and see what is going on.
I found out that Social Scope was eating away CPU cycles on mine. It is a beta product and I was testing it, its not ready for OS 6 yet.
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09-01-2010 10:09 AM