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New Developer
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎05-05-2012
My Device: android nexus s
My Carrier: fido

Why I stopped developing for Blackberry

First of all, I love blackberry 10 development platform.

-Good docs and examples

-Easy to develop using Cascade

-Good tools: eclipse plugin and simulator.

 

 

However, Review process is SLOW. First app release took MONTH and only after I posted issue on the forum. Next release approval took 3 weeks only. I made a mall mistake and had to resubmit and wait another MONTH.

 

Now it got even worse. My latest release was just supposed to change from paid to free version. It got approved but still stayed as 'paid'. Submitted vendor support ticket 3 weeks ago. Still no reply...

 

I have another 2 applications in the works but decided to stop development and move one. Good luck to anyone and hopefully you will not get frustrated as me.

Developer
Posts: 325
Registered: ‎10-01-2012
My Device: Dev Alpha C, Playbook 32 GB
My Carrier: BleskMobil

Re: Why I stopped developing for Blackberry

Haha. I wrote very similar post as you today. And then deleted it.

I have exactly the same feelings you have.

Blackberry is now Research in SLOW motion, this slowness totally destroys enthusiasm, I had.

I have one app I imagined and developed in February. And it is still processed by BB.

On Android I get idea, I implement prototype, deploy it within hours, get feedback and decide whether to continue with development and I'm in loop, it is real fun.

Here I get idea, implement it and ... nothing. It is kicked out because of branding issues after five weeks. Not because brand owner complains but just-in-case.

I really turned from love for BB10 API and tools to resignation.

I love to make apps for people but here it stopped to be fun.
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-- My Blackberry 10 app at http://blackberry.hubalek.net
-- My Android apps at http://android.hubalek.net
Regular Contributor
Posts: 81
Registered: ‎10-21-2012
My Device: playbook, storm, curve
My Carrier: T-Mobile

Re: Why I stopped developing for Blackberry

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It's understandable to vent once in a while but I wouldn't stop developing for BlackBerry just because of something like this. 

 

I know it can get very frustrating at times but waiting for APS to be approved just gives you time to develop more. Smiley Happy

 

I forgot to mention, I just had two updates approved in less than 24 hours. I thought it would take weeks... It didn't always take that long, it was usually two or three days at the most.

 

 

 

 

Developer
Posts: 6,541
Registered: ‎10-27-2010
My Device: HTC One, PlayBook, LE Z10, DE Q10
My Carrier: Verizon

Re: Why I stopped developing for Blackberry

I generally agree that the slowness of getting things approved wipes out productivity and responding to customer needs. It can take less time to develop an application then to get it into the store for download. It gets tiresome to get a bug report from a user, fix it in a day and then have to tell the user that it might be a week or two before they see it. Then it is available and there are bugs that prevents them from downloading the app. Then you have to tell them that is a well known problem by BB, but it might be a month before the OS is released. Then you hear the OS is released and you have to wait another month (or more) for the carrier to release the OS update.

Unless BB can find a way to increase their review and release cycle, I suspect we will hear more departures like this.

Tools: A
OS: A+
Device: A+
BB Support: B
BB World: C-
OS Updates (to device): D+
Developer
Posts: 325
Registered: ‎10-01-2012
My Device: Dev Alpha C, Playbook 32 GB
My Carrier: BleskMobil

Re: Why I stopped developing for Blackberry

@sonic you can do it if it is your hobby. If it is your job then it is not so funny.
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-- My Blackberry 10 app at http://blackberry.hubalek.net
-- My Android apps at http://android.hubalek.net
Regular Contributor
Posts: 81
Registered: ‎10-21-2012
My Device: playbook, storm, curve
My Carrier: T-Mobile

Re: Why I stopped developing for Blackberry

Yes, I know. I wanted to do this full time but at the moment it's not viable. I do understand.

Developer
Posts: 325
Registered: ‎10-01-2012
My Device: Dev Alpha C, Playbook 32 GB
My Carrier: BleskMobil

Re: Why I stopped developing for Blackberry

@jtegen nice summary. There is one more important aspect when rating platform: earnings. Because of limited user base earnings will be always lower than on Android or iOS.

So for me major stimulation was enthusiasms for nice platform. But I can't subsidiase BB10 forever.
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-- My Blackberry 10 app at http://blackberry.hubalek.net
-- My Android apps at http://android.hubalek.net
Developer
Posts: 6,541
Registered: ‎10-27-2010
My Device: HTC One, PlayBook, LE Z10, DE Q10
My Carrier: Verizon

Re: Why I stopped developing for Blackberry

Yes, revenue has not been overwhelming. I believe PlayBook had a better start in terms of revenue. Maybe too many apps have distributed the overall base too wide.

The only approach I see (IMHO) is to keep adding additional innovation (existing and new apps) and *hope* BB will resolve these problems. BB biggest problem is BBW reliability, BBW features (e.g. coupons, try&buy), and review times.

In terms of increasing review times, once a developer has been rated by BB as trustworthy, updates are automatic. Less trustworthy (and new developers) have to go thru the full review cycle. A developer becomes more "trustworthy" by having approved apps that do not infringe, plays nice with OS, etc. And maybe the "trustworthy" devs still get spot checks once in a while (after the fast track release), to make certain they can maintain their trustworthiness. For example, does anyone think that an app from FourSquare would do anything "bad", but have to assume they have to wait like anyone else.
Developer
Posts: 123
Registered: ‎02-13-2012
My Device: Z10 LE
My Carrier: Mobistar

Re: Why I stopped developing for Blackberry

The review process has been really slow lately, but this was because of the port-a-thons and the release of BB10, review times have improved a LOT lately, also, if for some reason your app review or support ticket doesn't get a response, just contact BlackBerry by email, I have found that they are very helpful with these things.

Please click the like button if my post helped you! Thank you.
Developer
Posts: 325
Registered: ‎10-01-2012
My Device: Dev Alpha C, Playbook 32 GB
My Carrier: BleskMobil

Re: Why I stopped developing for Blackberry

To be honest I feel that BB has to change review process.

On Android we don't have any testing and in case app has bug then fix is delivered in a few hours.

Users use ratings to "reward" any bug by one star, so developers do testing to prevent this situation.

Regarding security treats: both Google and BB has to use automated malware scanning, manual scanning does not help much. I can only imagine situation when manual testers can find simple social engineering treats. But they don't find time bombs or social engineering activated remotely.
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-- My Blackberry 10 app at http://blackberry.hubalek.net
-- My Android apps at http://android.hubalek.net