12-09-2008 12:57 PM
02-16-2009 10:33 PM
Martin_cruse
yea... mobile email management is VERY important to users who are interested in productivity and not using a BB as compensation for having a tiny d*ck. BES costs $4,000.00 you tea bag.
A very valid question was asked as I too believed at one time BB's were business oriented.
Take a hike if you don't want to help... Facebook is calling you.
03-18-2009 07:35 AM - edited 03-18-2009 11:52 AM
I am a very happy BES user, and inspired by that (and her curiosity and I dare say jealousy) I have been looking at portable e-mail solutions for my significant other. Her employer does not support BES, but has an IMAP e-mail server (which is not Exchange). I conclude that BIS is not a viable solution for someone who wants to do e-mail with an IMAP desktop client and also a BB for the following reasons:
So after a hard day at the office there is a significant chance that the device will still show some previously deleted mails, and will still show some previously read mails as unread.
BIS might be a reasonable solution for someone who does only handheld e-mail.
I really don't get it. Why does BIS not talk to IMAP properly? Or better still, why does the device client not deal direct with the server (as is the case with - gasp - other handset vendors)?
06-16-2009 10:02 PM
06-17-2009 02:48 AM
It is an old thread, but I'm frankly surprised that it does not show more traffic.
All the consumer guys (Apple, Palm, Nokia, ...) are doing a better and better job of moving up and attacking the professional and small-office market. But RIM seem reluctant to allow their consumer aspirations to provide a better integration with open standards (specifically IMAP). I guess their fear is that such a move would narrow the gap with (and erode margins on) BES.
As things stand today, I cannot recommend that my significant other use BB for combined desktop and mobile mail (using her corporate and social IMAP servers). How is that for eroding margins?
06-17-2009 09:03 AM
06-19-2009 08:49 PM
CAS wrote:Martin_cruse
yea... mobile email management is VERY important to users who are interested in productivity and not using a BB as compensation for having a tiny d*ck. BES costs $4,000.00 you tea bag
A very valid question was asked as I too believed at one time BB's were business oriented.
06-19-2009 11:30 PM
Here's the deal. First of all let's compare apples to apples here. Do pickups come with microwaves ANYWHERE? How about let's ask the question does the BB come with IMAP like ALMOST EVERY OTHER SMARTPHONE?
I'm going to be making a decision about a new phone at then end of the summer. I am not in AT&T's coverage area so iPhone is out (unfortunately). Right now I have a BB but am completely disappointed with the email situation. Even though I have this great "smartphone" I am forced to take my iPhone touch with me in the hopes that I can find a WiFi spot to get my email. It's a joke as far as I'm concerned. I guess if BB wants to focus on the "Business" world then they can have at it. I'll be switching to a different service.
06-19-2009 11:37 PM
06-20-2009 07:05 AM
I wasn't drunk. I'm still not drunk. My point is still valid. If you want new features, you ask for them and justify them. Then maybe the manufacturer, when they receive enough requests, will add a microwave or full support for IMAP. When they add the microwave or the IMAP support, they may have to put the cost up to provide this service.
My point is twofold:
One, if one customer of a company with over 10,000,000 customers makes a thinly veiled threat to take his business elsewhere because a product doesn't do what he wants it to do even though the manufacturer made no claims that it would perform this feature, that company aren't going to listen. Their observation will be that there's 9,999,999 who are happy with that feature being absent.
Two, If you want this feature then a concerted effort - yes, maybe even a petition - is going to have more effect than tirades of childish petulance. RIM have, for a long time, been going down the path of "we know what our users want" without actually asking them what they want. As someone else intimated, the email capabilities of the iPhone and iPod touch for a non corporate user are better than the features of BIS. And the Storm is just a "me too" device. RIM needs to start listening to its users again - but the users need to say "It would be great if my BB could..." instead of "I'm getting an Nokia if you don't..."
Right. NOW I'm going to get drunk.