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lalitve
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can a blackberry be used without data plan?

can a blackberry be used without data plan?

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jasoncheung
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Re: can a blackberry be used without data plan?

yes, but what do you want to use it for?

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BillJ
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Re: can a blackberry be used without data plan?

Without BIS (BlackBerry Internet Service, the BB data plan), you can basically talk and text. If you want to take advantage of RIM's push technology and have updates pushed to your phone, such as new emails, facebook and twitter updates, weather updates, etc., you need BIS.


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BillJ
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Re: can a blackberry be used without data plan?

Oops, I forgot to add something:

You can surf the web via Wi-Fi without BIS but you won't have anything pushed to your phone.

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d3v3l0p3r
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Re: can a blackberry be used without data plan?

My BlackBerry BIS works when WiFI is on and data is off but I suppose you need working SIM card with a BB BIS plan in first place to get it going.

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austinfife
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Re: can a blackberry be used without data plan?

I am interested in getting the Blackberry z10. I currently have a family plan where my plan is only a "quick messaging phone". I don't want the data that comes with the Blackberry z10 or the charges that come for having/using data. I only want the phone for txt messages (sms messages) and calling. Is this possible for me to do? If so, how do I do this?

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sdgardne
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Re: can a blackberry be used without data plan?


austinfife wrote:

I am interested in getting the Blackberry z10. I currently have a family plan where my plan is only a "quick messaging phone". I don't want the data that comes with the Blackberry z10 or the charges that come for having/using data. I only want the phone for txt messages (sms messages) and calling. Is this possible for me to do? If so, how do I do this?


Hi and Welcome to the Community!

 

It's actually better than that. With even the smallest data plan, you can have all BB-proprietary features (e.g., BBM, integrated email, BB Protect, OTA sync of calendar and contacts, etc.) on a BB10 device. With legacy, BIS was required for those things -- at whatever costs the carriers charged. With BB10, BIS is not used.

 

For example...in the US for $30/month, you can have 5GB 4G data (throttled thereafter, but truly unlimited), 100m talk, and unlimited SMS (TMobile Pre-Paid plan). And, with that plan, ALL BB-proprietary services work just fine. With pre-BB10 devices, the best I ever found was $50/month with 250GB of data (shut down thereafter).

 

Anyway, for what you desire, yes it is completely possible...but, you will be missing out on so many other things that no longer cost extra to have.

 

You need to talk to your mobile service provider of choice to determine what is best for you.

 

Good luck!


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uvp
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Re: can a blackberry be used without data plan?

Hi!

I come to understand that BB10 (z10) is different from legacy BB models such that no separate BIS pack is needed for BB10. A standard data pack from network operator is enough.

I want to know, why BB had a policy of having a separate BIS plan (for BBM, push services, etc - correct me if wrong here) and data plan from network operator. Is this a business strategy for extracting money from customers? What is the advantage of having so - while in other mobile OS we can do all that with the network operator's data plan.

Is it that considering a security standpoint, BBM was introduced for communicating with BB users. If so, now that BBM is available for iOS & Android - what was the point of having BBM internal to BlackBerry phone users (as earlier).

 

Thanks

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sdgardne
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Re: can a blackberry be used without data plan?


uvp wrote:

Hi!

I come to understand that BB10 (z10) is different from legacy BB models such that no separate BIS pack is needed for BB10. A standard data pack from network operator is enough.

I want to know, why BB had a policy of having a separate BIS plan (for BBM, push services, etc - correct me if wrong here) and data plan from network operator. Is this a business strategy for extracting money from customers? What is the advantage of having so - while in other mobile OS we can do all that with the network operator's data plan.

Is it that considering a security standpoint, BBM was introduced for communicating with BB users. If so, now that BBM is available for iOS & Android - what was the point of having BBM internal to BlackBerry phone users (as earlier).

 

Thanks


Hello,

 

All of your questions are "why" types of questions...which, not being BlackBerry employees or insiders, we have no access to such answers. Further, even if anyone here knew the true answers, they likely would be barred from revealing it due to the site Ts & Cs, individual NDA, etc. Please see this "sticky" post, along with the threads to which it links, for helpful information to guide you as you proceed:

Hopefully, this information will be of use to you. If you wish to seek opinion regarding your questions, then you can surely proceed here in this community...just know that what you receive back can only be considered to be that...opinion of the individual who responds to you.

 

My opinion is that BIS provided both BB-proprietary services (email, BBM, etc.) plus also data compression via the BIS channel. Since all of that was dedicated solely to BB users and required dedicated infrastructure to be hosted at the carriers and at BlackBerry, then they logically could charge something additional for the use of those dedicated (to BB-users only) resources. Note, however, that this is market dependent...in some markets, having BIS or not results in no difference to the cost of the plan to the end user. Pricing to the end users is not set by BlackBerry...rather, it is solely in the control of the mobile service providers in each market, and each market may dictate different things from other markets.


Cheers, and Good Luck!


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