Welcome!

Welcome to the official BlackBerry Support Community Forums.

This is your resource to discuss support topics with your peers, and learn from each other.

inside custom component

Java Development

Reply
Developer
ekke
Posts: 1,316
Registered: ‎04-08-2010
My Carrier: Telekom.de, O2, Vodafone

Re: BB Jam 10 - the way for java developers seems clear to me


Aviator168 wrote:

I will go to their Jam Road Show when they come to my city to get the alpha device.

 

Question about that 10K deal. Is that only restricted to apps listed in AppWorld? We sell our apps ourselves and we net way way above their requirement to get the 10K deal. Are we still eligible for the deal if we prove sales figure?


BB10 Apps can only be sold using AppWorld, there's no OTA way possible.

 

(while developing you can use Debug-Token to test on some devices)

 

the 10k offer is only for aps sold thru AppWorld - and only for Quality APPs

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ekke (independent software architect, rosenheim, germany)

BlackBerry Elite Developer
International Development Mobile Apps BlackBerry 10 Cascades
Cascades - Workshops / Trainings / Bootcamps

Open Source Enthusiast
blog: http://ekkes-corner.org videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/ekkescorner
bb10-development: http://appbus.org Twitter: @ekkescorner
Please use plain text.
Developer
Developer
CMY
Posts: 1,119
Registered: ‎02-10-2009
My Carrier: Verizon

Re: BB Jam 10 - the way for java developers seems clear to me

I'm sure it is only for AppWorld. I think in the actual description it says apps that do not generate 10K in sales in AppWorld.
Please use plain text.
Developer
Aviator168
Posts: 709
Registered: ‎09-10-2009
My Carrier: Verizon

Re: BB Jam 10 - the way for java developers seems clear to me


ekke wrote:

BB10 Apps can only be sold using AppWorld, there's no OTA way possible.

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

That's a problem for us. We do sell our apps one copy at a time and we can move that to AppWorld. However, majority of our sales are to corpor customers and that makes up more than 90% of our revenue. Another problem is. How the heck are my corpor customers are going to install the app on their BBs if no OTA installation? This is very bad.  

Please use plain text.
Developer
peter9477
Posts: 6,447
Registered: ‎12-08-2010
My Carrier: none

Re: BB Jam 10 - the way for java developers seems clear to me


Aviator168 wrote:

I will go to their Jam Road Show when they come to my city to get the alpha device.

 

Question about that 10K deal. Is that only restricted to apps listed in AppWorld? We sell our apps ourselves and we net way way above their requirement to get the 10K deal. Are we still eligible for the deal if we prove sales figure?


A few comments about that "deal"...

 

First of all, don't bother asking for details on almost any aspect of it yet, since those details are not known.  In fact, they are not yet even defined, since this concept was announced before they've even figured out most aspects of it. In other words, even RIM doesn't really know the answers to most questions about it yet.

 

What we do know (or rather, what they've said) is that it will require a third-party certification, which will not be free (but is not expected to be expensive either).

 

What we don't know is everything else. Does the $1K refer to gross revenue or our 70%?  Does the $10K refer to gross revenue or our 70% cut? Does it apply to one app per developer, or more than one? What are the details of the certification?  What platforms (e.g. even Android) will be covered by the guarantee? And on and on.  We especially don't know what steps they'll take to address the numerous possible loopholes which all of us can see immediately (e.g. make a $500 app and sell two copies to friends) but I think we can be assured they'll address them.

 

I'd suggest not even thinking too much about this "deal", and not even thinking of it as a "deal".  The idea is not to contrive merely to snag a $9000 bonus from RIM... that would be stupid and shortsighted. The reason they're doing this is (I think) because they're so confident that decent apps will make lots of money that they're willing to provide a guarantee, but are expecting lots of people not to have to collect on it. Making $10K on PlayBook apps is hard, but doing the same with the phone volume should be far easier.

 

Personally, I intend to have more than one excellent BB10 app out there for launch, and I expect each of them to make well over $10K. Maybe the 20% or so of my revenue that goes to RIM will be subsidizing some of you under this guarantee, but I'll still be laughing all the way to the bank. ;-)


Peter Hansen -- (BB10 and dev-related blog posts at http://peterhansen.ca.)
Author of White Noise and Battery Guru for BB10 and for PlayBook | Get more from your battery!
Please use plain text.
Developer
peter9477
Posts: 6,447
Registered: ‎12-08-2010
My Carrier: none

Re: BB Jam 10 - the way for java developers seems clear to me


Aviator168 wrote:

How the heck are my corpor customers are going to install the app on their BBs if no OTA installation? This is very bad.  


App World will support "corporate shelf space" for the BB10 platform, so I think they've already got that covered for you.

 

It's possible this guarantee won't apply to such apps though.  No details will be known for some time, I expect... maybe several months.


Peter Hansen -- (BB10 and dev-related blog posts at http://peterhansen.ca.)
Author of White Noise and Battery Guru for BB10 and for PlayBook | Get more from your battery!
Please use plain text.
Developer
Aviator168
Posts: 709
Registered: ‎09-10-2009
My Carrier: Verizon

Re: BB Jam 10 - the way for java developers seems clear to me


peter9477 wrote:

Personally, I intend to have more than one excellent BB10 app out there for launch, and I expect each of them to make well over $10K. Maybe the 20% or so of my revenue that goes to RIM will be subsidizing some of you under this guarantee, but I'll still be laughing all the way to the bank. ;-)


I agree. Being a software architect for so long. The most satisfactifying thing to see is when millions of people using your creation. 

Please use plain text.
Developer
Aviator168
Posts: 709
Registered: ‎09-10-2009
My Carrier: Verizon

Re: BB Jam 10 - the way for java developers seems clear to me


peter9477 wrote:

App World will support "corporate shelf space" for the BB10 platform, so I think they've already got that covered for you.

 

 

 

Do you know if I have to write to specific API to work with "corporate shelf space"?

Please use plain text.
Developer
ekke
Posts: 1,316
Registered: ‎04-08-2010
My Carrier: Telekom.de, O2, Vodafone

Re: BB Jam 10 - the way for java developers seems clear to me


peter9477 wrote:

Aviator168 wrote:

How the heck are my corpor customers are going to install the app on their BBs if no OTA installation? This is very bad.  


App World will support "corporate shelf space" for the BB10 platform, so I think they've already got that covered for you.

 

It's possible this guarantee won't apply to such apps though.  No details will be known for some time, I expect... maybe several months.


additional info about Enterprise Apps at AppWorld:

http://bizblog.blackberry.com/2012/03/app-world-enterprise-solution-for-playbook/?CPID=TWBizapp5712

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ekke (independent software architect, rosenheim, germany)

BlackBerry Elite Developer
International Development Mobile Apps BlackBerry 10 Cascades
Cascades - Workshops / Trainings / Bootcamps

Open Source Enthusiast
blog: http://ekkes-corner.org videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/ekkescorner
bb10-development: http://appbus.org Twitter: @ekkescorner
Please use plain text.
Developer
Aviator168
Posts: 709
Registered: ‎09-10-2009
My Carrier: Verizon

Re: BB Jam 10 - the way for java developers seems clear to me


ekke wrote:

additional info about Enterprise Apps at AppWorld:

http://bizblog.blackberry.com/2012/03/app-world-enterprise-solution-for-playbook/?CPID=TWBizapp5712



This is great. All I have to do is give them the app and they are responsible to put it in their own AppWorld.

Please use plain text.