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Aviator168
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Registered: 09-10-2009
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Chicken or the egg

How do you test your first Blackberry app without being in the BA program?

 

I am in the process of testing my VoIP application and it works great on my Bold 9000. I am trying to test it on more BB devices. Without being in the BA program, the only alternative is to test it on the simulators. However, full duplex audio is not supported in the java virtual machine. Now I am at a lost.  Being not in the BA program, I can't test my app on devices other than my Bold, and since I have not release my app, I can't accumuate points enough to join the BA program. It is a catch 22 for me. How do you guys do it when you first started?

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ydaraishy
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Registered: 09-30-2009

Re: Chicken or the egg

Few options: buy more devices, declare that you support Bold 9000 and no other devices, get people to beta test on multiple devices.

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RexDoug
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Registered: 07-21-2008

Re: Chicken or the egg

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Being in the BA program doesn't get you much in the way of devices.  We have about 25 diff. devices, perhaps three were protypes provided by RIM.

 

The devices are pretty cheap, relatively. Maintaining accounts adds up, though.  So we have several accounts (as few as possible) and we swap SIM's back and forth.

 

 

 

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JSanders
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Re: Chicken or the egg

I've seen a number of developers post threads asking for Beta testers for an app... here not so much.

 

CrackBerry and BlackBerryForums.com quite often.


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Aviator168
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Re: Chicken or the egg

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JSanders wrote:

I've seen a number of developers post threads asking for Beta testers for an app... here not so much.

 

CrackBerry and BlackBerryForums.com quite often.


 

I guess those are viable options. Thx JSanders

 

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mb1
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Registered: 05-26-2009

Re: Chicken or the egg

1. What is the BA program?

 

2. Would it be possible for experieneced devs here tos hare what device specific issues like pearl versus curve you have encountered?  (Storm is a different beast becaueof the touch screen).

 

--MB.

 

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RexDoug
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Re: Chicken or the egg

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BA = Blackberry Alliance.

 

There are differences across all the device types: screen size, keyboard layout, SureType vs. QWERTY, GPS, no GPS, trackball vs. wheel, glide pad, touch, CDMA vs. GPRS, WiFi, no WiFi, etc.,

 

Getting folks to beta for you is fine, but in my experience you need to have the devices. Otherwise, you can't duplicate issues.

 

 

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simon_hain
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Re: Chicken or the egg

there are also some services that provide testing on multiple devices, don't remember the names though.

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Aviator168
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Re: Chicken or the egg

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Thanks for the tip. Google is my friend.

 

http://www.intertek.com/wireless-mobile/applications-and-content/rim-blackberry/

 

EDIT. Another thought. Since my app only supports higher end phones and no RIM service is needed, I might just buy the phone on ebay, and it should cost me less than $1K to get obtain those extra phones for testing

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RexDoug
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Re: Chicken or the egg

Yes, we buy the phones on eBay or wherever. We keep accounts open with AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and SPrint, then swap the SIM's between the test phones.

 

(we need internet access for licensing and activation, as well as backup for user data)

 

 

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