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RexDoug
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Registered: ‎07-21-2008
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Re: DevCon update: BB-Java is dead, no java support for QNX

Quote from the BLOG post::

 

At BlackBerry DevCon Americas, we unveiled BlackBerry® BBX. Since the announcement, we’ve been receiving a lot of positive feedback from developers, as well as questions about supporting BlackBerry Java® on BlackBerry BBX and the current BlackBerry PlayBook OS.

 

I wonder which developers these are?

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rihan007
Posts: 455
Registered: ‎01-14-2009
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Re: DevCon update: BB-Java is dead, no java support for QNX

Now i can concentrate on my android app , and also learn ios dev. 

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simon_hain
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Registered: ‎07-29-2008
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Re: DevCon update: BB-Java is dead, no java support for QNX


RexDoug wrote:

Quote from the BLOG post::

 

At BlackBerry DevCon Americas, we unveiled BlackBerry® BBX. Since the announcement, we’ve been receiving a lot of positive feedback from developers, as well as questions about supporting BlackBerry Java® on BlackBerry BBX and the current BlackBerry PlayBook OS.

 

I wonder which developers these are?


This is marketing speech, you have to translate it back to the normal world if you want to understand it.

If you just label all feedback as positive you have a much better performance.

Still, sounds not very sincere to me, i would have expected them to use the label "constructive feedback".

 

And you also have to take into account that there was no official statement about no bb-java on qnx/bbx until the blog post. Probably not everybody watching the keynote figured it out that "no news means its dead" is a way of communicating with your developers.

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dnepr
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Re: DevCon update: BB-Java is dead, no java support for QNX

They obviously don't want this making a big news story.

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superdirt
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Re: DevCon update: BB-Java is dead, no java support for QNX

What makes Android so much more advance than BB OS that Android apps would not provide "a diminished experience."

 

Scott

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br14
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Re: DevCon update: BB-Java is dead, no java support for QNX

Diminished Experience

 

I see coincidentally there's an upgrade to the SDK released today.

 

SDK 7 Upgrade

 

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sblantipodi
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Re: DevCon update: BB-Java is dead, no java support for QNX

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can't belive what they are saying.

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superdirt
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Re: DevCon update: BB-Java is dead, no java support for QNX

A bigger diminished experience would be RIM not supporting the thousands of applications that BB users have integrated into their businesses and daily lives.

 

 

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rcmaniac25
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Re: DevCon update: BB-Java is dead, no java support for QNX

While I am disappointed with the concept of simply not talking about it (up until today) and not providing a transition period from BBOS to BBX, I am not really angry about it.

 

I am biased because I do BlackBerry development as a hobby, but I just look at it as “well, time to do more development.”

 

I feel that for someone trying to make a living off this, this news is really tough, if you work for a company doing this; possibly tougher, as you have bosses who would drop development instantly if/when they find out that BBX doesn’t support the current BlackBerry Java system.

 

If I could convince RIM to do anything, it’s to open source it. They don’t need to provide the COD format, provide a header file that covers the entire framework (and possible libraries for the security system and other “propriety” components) and then the reader for the COD format. People, myself included, would probably be willing to work on it to implement the header components.

 

But as that is not expected, I instead look to other areas for BBX development. I mostly do porting so this is just another port for me. I get to port my various libraries to it, I’m mainly a C# dev so possibly porting the Mono framework, if RIM doesn’t make a way to run BlackBerry apps on BBX, maybe I’ll give it a go to see what I can do. I’m not the best, probably not even great, but it would be something to help the community especially after reading all the anger in the previous couple pages of posts.

 

I enjoyed the past, the future may look bleak, but I’m sure they’ll be a sunny light at the end of the tunnel. People may say RIM is going to die, I say I will prove them wrong.

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sblantipodi
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Re: DevCon update: BB-Java is dead, no java support for QNX


rcmaniac25 wrote:

People may say RIM is going to die, I say I will prove them wrong.


And how do you prove it?

I know dozens of developers that are abandoning RIM, good developers with important apps on their back.

In any case I hope you are right, personally I will create my bar as a port of our android app but I'm not glad with this kind of Class B development.

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