03-29-2011 06:16 PM
Most fonts, included those built into Windows seem to have either hard to find, very complex, or very expensive licenses for commercial use in an app with editable text.
My question is, what fonts are safe to use? Can I use Arial without any problems? I thought Microsoft fonts were pretty much public domain, but further research shows otherwise.
I could REALLY use some help with sorting this out.
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03-29-2011 06:34 PM
The PlayBook will have many fonts included, including Arial, so you should have no worries with that one at least.
There are other ones not listed there, since the more recent SDKs add some. The default used to be BBAlpha Sans but that's been changed to Myriad Pro.
You can use Font.enumerateFonts(true) to get a list of the installed ones (that didn't work with 0.9.3 but works again in 0.9.4).
03-29-2011 07:32 PM
You don't need a license to use a font, only to distribute it. Since you aren't distributing these fonts inside your .bar, you don't need a license. All of them are pre-installed in the tablet and available for any app to use.
Here's the full list, from 0.9.4. Naturally, anything in the beta SDK is subject to change without notice by final release, but I expect this will be fairly stable (probably only additions, if any, and no removals). We did get confirmation that Myriad Pro is definitely to be the default font now.
Adobe Arabic Adobe Caslon Pro Adobe Caslon Pro Bold Adobe Devanagari Adobe Gothic Std L Adobe Hebrew Adobe Heiti Std R Adobe Ming Std L Adobe Text Pro Adobe Text Pro Semibold Adobe Thai Andale Mono Arial Arial Black BBAlpha Sans BBAlpha Sans Condensed BBAlpha Sans Mono BBAlpha Serif BBArabic Keypad BBGlobal Sans BBGlobal Serif BBThaiKeypad Bitstream Vera Sans Bitstream Vera Sans Mono Bitstream Vera Serif Comic Sans MS Courier New DejaVu Sans DejaVu Sans Condensed DejaVu Sans Light DejaVu Sans Mono DejaVu Serif DejaVu Serif Condensed Droid Sans Mono Georgia Impact Liberation Mono Liberation Sans Liberation Serif Myriad Pro Myriad Pro Black Myriad Pro Black Cond Myriad Pro Black SemiCond Myriad Pro Black SemiExt Myriad Pro Cond Myriad Pro Light Myriad Pro Light Cond Myriad Pro Light SemiCond Myriad Pro Light SemiExt Myriad Pro SemiCond Myriad Pro SemiExt News Gothic Std Ryo Gothic PlusN B Ryo Gothic PlusN H Ryo Gothic PlusN L Ryo Gothic PlusN M Ryo Gothic PlusN R Ryo Text PlusN L Ryo Text PlusN M Ryo Text PlusN R Tahoma Times New Roman Trebuchet MS Verdana Webdings Wingdings Wingdings 2 Wingdings 3
03-29-2011 09:32 PM
I guess what I meant were usage rights. I can find plenty of free fonts, but ones that can be used in an application like mine are rare or expensive.
Thanks so much for clearing this up for me though!
03-29-2011 10:28 PM
I used Verdana as an embedded font in my app and included the font file I found in windows in the source file of my app to make it work. I'm not breaking the law am I?
03-29-2011 11:53 PM
I'm not a lawyer so I can't say for sure.
It looks to me after some brief googling like you probably have no rights to distribute that font.
I suggest searching for things like "verdana font license" and related terms (e.g. "copyright") and decide for yourself.
I also suggest that if you include any third-party asset in your software, which means anything you did not create yourself, you should clearly establish your right to distribute it. If you can't find some explicit statement that you have that right, you probably don't.
Also note that you supposedly told RIM when you create the release (in the Vendor Portal) what third-party assets you had and something about your right to distribute those. Didn't you consider this to be third-party material?
03-30-2011 02:05 AM - edited 03-30-2011 02:06 AM
This seems rather a grey area. What constitutes "distribution"?
In Flash, if you use a typeface in a dynamic TextField it is often (partially) embedded. But it not in an easily usable format such as .ttf, and can normally only be used by that .swf. The user of your app/swf can't install it for use by other applications. I'm not 100% sure how FlashBuilder handles this, but I expect it revolves around the [Embed] attribute.
It's a similar story with fonts embedded in a .pdf. They can be used in the document, but not installed in your \Windows\Fonts folder.
So I suppose one could argue that the app/swf/pdf is a publication. If you have a license to use the font (e.g. if you have a licensed copy of Windows) you should be okay.
Now, if your app uses the font to produce publications - perhaps a word processor or a photo caption utility - then that's a different matter. In that case it could be argued that the font is packaged with the app, and you'd need a license to distribute the font to the end user.
I'm not a lawyer, so this is just my personal opinion.
Cheers, - Jon -
03-30-2011 02:36 AM
"Also note that you supposedly told RIM when you create the release (in the Vendor Portal) what third-party assets you had and something about your right to distribute those. Didn't you consider this to be third-party material?"
No I didn't. It never crossed my mind. lol.