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Re: Stage3D

I agree to that. There is not use waiting till both are done. Getting the conrols up on desktop would be a meaningful way to move the ball forward a little faster. If we wait till both are there, then we will have to wait even more time to work out all the bugs.
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It's not a technical challenge, it is a licensing and effort challenge.

We don't have licensing or the work on documentation complete. Or the final decision on if we will go this route. We believe these efforts would likely line up with Stage3D availability
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Re: Stage3D

Let me see if I can summarize to draw in everything from the last few exchanges Smiley Happy

 

  • We have some experimental code for creating BB10 core UI based on Stage3D
  • It's experimental code only and has not been documented on how to use it
  • We are considering making it open source code once we have Stage3D available to developers on a future beta of BB10.  We are not looking to make something available on desktop leading up to that point
  • We don't have goals of creating a new standard cross platform UI framework for AIR on Stage3D
  • We would however not object to the community morphing the code to do so under the proper licensing
  • We haven't figured out what licensing would be yet.  It may be a combination of permissive or not-permissive or dual licensing
  • We have not determined if we will do this or not, we are in the gathering feedback phase and will also be dependent on BlackBerry's comfort on licensing

 

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Re: Stage3D

I'm already really happy to know that Stage3D will come to BB10. Amazing apps will come just by supporting it!

As for a new Open Source UI Framework built on top of Stage3D ... I guess it would be a bit of "internal competition" with the current AIR SDK which also has the Fuse UI components, no? 

But I believe this new Stage3D UI framework can easily get as big and important as bbUI.js. Many of the Flash developers I know, myself included, are crazy about leveraging the power of Stage3D and all started exploring with Starling + Feathers. Some of us still dream of having a Stage3D based Flex framework (for some that's actually a nightmare...).

 

Anyway, thanks for all the good news and possible scenarios. I support a BB10 UI Framework based on Stage3D.

PS: I hope you guys are planning to provide support JPEGXR with the AIR Runtime.

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Re: Stage3D

Do you guys have any date already? I've been asking all around and all I got is that it is coming but no idea when. There's no change on the roadmap until September and it's really frustrating not to be able to use Stage3D in PlayBook and BB10 apps. If this continues I will have to switch to iOS and Android only. Very sad.

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I can't give you a date right now because it would be tied to an OS update which is confidential until BlackBerry wants to start talking about that update.

Also, stage3D will only be coming to BB10 OS not PlayBook OS
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I don't need to know if Stage3D is coming April 1st or 2nd but I'd like to know if it will take weeks, months or years. With the speed until now I hope it will be sooner than BlackBerry 11 comes Smiley Happy

 

BTW If AIR 3.2+ is not coming to Tablet OS, does it mean that PlayBook gets BB10 OS or that it won't get AIR 3.2+?

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I was really excited for the stage3D update until I read this. Does this mean that the PlayBook OS Air version will be left as it is? If we want an app to be available in both devices would we have to develop a stage3D and a non stage3D version?

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The PlayBook OS is not planned to recieve an upgrade to its AIR runtime.  Any upgrade to AIR on PlayBook would be when it has support for BB10.  The same holds true for the Android runtime update.

 

I know the next question... when will PlayBook get BB10... I don't have a date to give you. BlackBerry has not provided further details on timing.

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Re: Stage3D

Yes, I understand that BB10 phones are more important than tablets at the moment. But the AIR support is awful. What's the problem with getting Stage3D to BlackBerry? There's AIR 3.6 at the moment and 3.7 on its way and BB10 is a brand new platform with AIR in version which is more than a year older. I get it that there can be licensing issues and else but the roadmap says TBD PLANNING for more than 6 months which I read **bleep** YOU DEVELOPERS, IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOP FOR BB10 YOU SHOULD USE DIFFERENT TOOLS BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT AIR.