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Message State Database Size setting to '0'

I posted on another forum too, but the post really hasn't received much interest so I figured I'd try here too.
 
I've been trying to figure out the whole "Message State Database Size" setting for awhile now and still really don't understand things beyond the very basics.

What I do understand is this feature will track hard deletes per user up to the number of messages specified as high as 1000. Fine.

What I'm not finding any info on is what's actually happening when I set this to '0' because my hard deletes are still being taken care of. If it still takes care of hard deletes, what's the point of "tracking" these items?

Any Uber-BES'ers out there that truly understand this capability? Tnx.
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Re: Message State Database Size setting to '0'

When you set it to -0- are you restarting services after making the change?

 

KB04853 - How to enable hard deletes

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Re: Message State Database Size setting to '0'

Yes.

AndyDufresne wrote:

When you set it to -0- are you restarting services after making the change?

 

KB04853 - How to enable hard deletes


 

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Re: Message State Database Size setting to '0'


dougxd wrote:
Yes.

AndyDufresne wrote:

When you set it to -0- are you restarting services after making the change?

 

KB04853 - How to enable hard deletes


 


 

Hmn, well the product isn't working as advertised then.  Perhaps this is an undocumented method to set it to unlimited.  What if you set the # to 1 instead?

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Re: Message State Database Size setting to '0'

But that's just it.......I'm not sure anymore I truly understand, technically, what is going on underneath the hood.  Firstly, I should mention, I'm running E2k7 wSP1 and update rollup 3.  The BESx is 4.1.6 build80.  I have a whopping 8 users (including me) and the average mailbox size is roughly 5gigs.  All users are using Outlook 2k3sp3 at a minimum.

 

Now that that's outta the way.............

 

According to the BB KB, Exchange 2003 (maybe older and/or newer versions too?) has a fixed hard delete notification rate of 20 messages at a time. I'm assuming until I know otherwise E2k7 does too.  If that limit is in place, what good does it do to setup MSDS to anything higher than 20?

 

But the bottom line for me is.........I can't wrap my head around this feature still.  I just plain don't understand what's going on at a fundamental level.