07-17-2013 07:54 PM
Our company currently uses a hosted MS Exchange and BES service, and our provider still doesn't support BES10. I would like to upgrade our BB devices to BB10 for a variety of reasons.
Is it feasible to setup our own BES10 server and connect it to our hosted Exchange? Does it even need to connect to Exchange since BB10 now uses ActiveSync?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
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07-22-2013 08:55 AM
Welcome to the BlackBerry Support Community Forums.
Thank you for your question regarding BES10 and a Hosted Microsoft Exchange.
There are 2 options if your ActiveSync is publicly facing then there is no need for BES10.1 as you can directly integrate to ActiveSync.
If you are looking for more control over the devices and your ActiveSync is internal only then you can go to with BES 10.1.
You can get the free trial from the below address.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
07-22-2013 09:03 AM
Thanks for the response LoneWolf902.
My situation is this: My ActiveSync is publicly facing and hosted externally by a third party, but I do want to have better control over the devices. Can I use BES 10.1 in this situation?
07-22-2013 09:13 AM
You absolutely can. When you create the EMail profile you would just put in the public facing ActiveSync name.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
10-29-2013 01:54 AM
I am also Microsoft Hosted Exchange and my hosted provider isn't offering BES 10 yet (I thought they would for sure by now.) I want BES for many, many reasons but one of the biggest is SMIME. The hosted provider enables that for me on the BES server. Although I have to get the Private keys onto the devices myself using the Desktop Manager (Certificate sync to Outlook.) I see for the newer Blackberries they want you to email the private key. That will never happen - I won't do it that way. So for SMIME to even work on the new BB 10 platform I am going to have to get the Private Key onto the device in some other way... Will the Link Software be capable of a certificate sync to Outlook like the Desktop Manager now is?
So there are really 2 questions:
Is it possible to run the BES 10 myself? And if I do, can I use the BES sever to get the Private keys onto the Blackberries or will the Link Software be capable of that some time in the future?
If running BES 10 myself isn't possible - do you know of any Hosted Microsoft Exchange providers that are offering BES 10? I would prefer one located in the United States. And I have to find one that lets me talk to the engineer so they can enable SMIME off the server (that wasn't easy to find as most hosted providers won't do that for you.)
12-11-2013 01:32 AM - edited 12-11-2013 01:45 AM
No it hasn't. I have done a lot of reading on BES 10 and running it doesn't look that hard, you would just have to make sure it is even possible after reading this from the post above:
LoneWolf902 said this, "If you are looking for more control over the devices and your ActiveSync is internal only then you can go to with BES 10.1."
And if your hosted exchange company's ActiveSync isn't internal you could run Microsoft Exchange Server yourself as well - it depends on how important BES and what it affords is to you and how much money and effort you want to put in.
I haven't pursued this possibility yet for several reasons. The SMIME private key should have the ability to be imported by USB cable via syncing with the Desktop Manager (like it is now for a BB OS 7 device on BES 5.) There are a myriad of reasons why importing it "localized or manually" is important. Once the private key is emailed as an attachment there can be too many people having access (even if that is just the techs who work on the BES server.) Nobody from Blackberry has stated why "OTA" is currently the only way to get a private key onto a BB and the obvious limitations and security concerns that presents.
Blackberry keeps saying they are going to be more enterprise oriented, prosumer friendly and security conscious. But currently I am not seeing evidence of that. The emailing of the private key is just one example of giving us "less" security than our prior configuration. In addition, BES 10 is Active Sync behind a proxy - no "proprietary protocol" for syncing anymore. Now one thing about "proprietary" is we have no idea if it was better or worse compared to ActiveSync behind a proxy, proprietary isn't open source so we can find out.. But based on BB history - I am thinking it was very good.
I don't want a "downgrade" in regard to my BES security because Blackberry wants to play ball with BYOD Android/iPhone consumers who are far less concerned about security. Blackberry Balance falls into this BYOD category as well - it has yet to be proven and that it exists at all, even if you don't use it (I never will, I have another smartphone for stupidity) could be a problem. Hopefully there is a way to completely wipe out that side and lock the phone down. But I would still like to see someone hammer on Balance and see if it indeed will hold the line.
I am not hearing enough, or reading enough to feel good about moving forward yet. I am hopeful that will change over time - they need time and I am willing to give it to them since my current BES BB show is meeting my needs.
So we hold and wait.
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12-11-2013 09:57 AM
My UK office is all on BlackBerry Balance with BES 10.1.3.
They like the fact you can have work removed and not worry about their personal stuff be wiped out.
You can still wipe whole phone if needed.
BES uses end to end encryption. if your using SSL then there should be no worry either way unless you have an old cert that can be cracked easier.
I had an issue with DNS hoster for 3 days and only my BES 5 and 10 users were running with email on their phones. All other active sync devices and Outlook clients could not get email during this time unless they used VPN or were local on LAN.
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08-19-2014 01:02 AM - edited 08-19-2014 01:03 AM
This thread is somewhat of a mess but I don't want to start another one basically asking the same question.
Above LoneWolf902 says you cannot run BES 10.1 unless your Hosted ActiveSync is internal.
Then Durandall6 says his ActiveSync is publicly facing but would like more control over the devices and can he run BES 10.1. LoneWolf902 says he can if he sets up his Email profile with the public facing ActiveSync name.
The statements contradict each other.
I have 2 Z30's coming and my hosted provider is not running BES 10. I ether run the BES server myself (if that is possible - from this thread I still do not know) or I change hosted providers to one that offers BES 10 (they are out there, I have contacted a few.) Of course moving providers is its own nightmare.
Some clarification would be wonderful...
08-19-2014 09:14 AM
It is possible to do.
You can install a BES 10 locally but the data route is not optimal. I'm guessing you're using office 365 or something similar?
All data from devices is routed to the BES initially and then BES will communicate with the external ActiveSync server, iem.outlook.com)
The data is then passed back to the device. This longer route over complicates things in my opinion and if you ever change to a hosted BES 10 you will have to reactivate all your devices.
BES 10 already exists in a cloud solution. Have you looked at that ?