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07-22-2011 03:32 AM
I have a general question about the BlackBerry Push-Service:
On my BlackBerry Curve 8900 with OS 18.104.22.1687 I have no BIS or BES. I installed those legendary ServiceBooks from anworm and with ShangMail I can use the BlackBerry MailClient as it was Push.
But I doubt that this is really push, because my provider doesn't provide any BlackBerry Option or special services.
I think that ShangMail is just sending requests to the ShangMail Server or has a connection to it open all the time, initiated by ShangMail on my phone.
I thought the real BB-Push is another story, that here the BB Data Server can directly send to the phone initiated by the server through the provider - but I don't know it exactly.
I installed the application "WhatsApp" and here I noticed that even when it is not running, I can get messages from other WhatsApp-users!
Now I am confused and would like to know how is it really with this push and those apps using a kind of push without BIS/BES.
Could anyone tell me?
Thank you, kind regards,
07-22-2011 03:52 AM
OK, let me begin with this question:
How is it possible, that WhatsApp is switched off and another user of WhatsApp can send me a message when I don't have BIS or BES?
My provider has definetly no BlackBerry services.
07-22-2011 04:01 AM
General Speaking it is not possible but techically there are some cases that it is possible.
1. If the WhatsApp is off then it may be that because the user is on another WhatsAPP not yours.
2. If same whatsapp users then one should send the message and other is for now offline then the message if OTA (ON the Air) and waiting for him to online. When it si online then the message is delvired even in the case the WhatsApp is off.
3. There may be a case that he have a schedulear and on a specific time it sends the email. After that the process will be same as explained in 2nd that it remain OTA
Can you tell me more case for your scence so that i can give you more information.
07-22-2011 04:13 AM
07-22-2011 05:17 AM
First of all i am gone for a luch so that i am late to send yo response. Now yes this possible that a service will run in background wihtout any icon. For example consider the windows application like Internet Downlaod Mananger. When you close it its icon will be vanshied. But when you try to download something then its apeared automcaittaly. Thats means its running in bakcground. But in this case the download mananger will then reapear but in your case WhatsApp will not appered. Just a formal notifcation. I see some applications that runs wihtout notification but running poreporly on background like Porxy servers in windows.
Am i right? I think the Whatsapp will run in background after you close it acculy its running. yo can verify it by checking the process list.
07-22-2011 05:31 AM
Its simple if you are using windows then
1. Right click on task bar (where the clock is displays bottom right conroner of desktop screen thats total bar is task bar)
2. Select Task Mananger
3. In the popup dialog box select process
07-22-2011 05:44 AM
07-22-2011 05:49 AM
Then i think i feel sorry for that because i am not a developer. I am IT Mananger, IT Support Engineer and Exchange Administrator. I am very sorry that further more i cannot help you. As far as concerns about BB then there is no application that shows you all prcoesses. May the new windows MS windows phone 7 will support it but currently i dont have any techincal updated about it.
Plase dont mind it. I am unable to help you in developlment side.