03-31-2013 03:02 PM - edited 03-31-2013 04:35 PM
03-31-2013 08:01 PM
I am going to try to address some of your comments and observations. We have quite a few things in common, I am also a real estate broker and I came from Using the Torch 9810 and a phone is essential in our business. The first day I picked up my z10 on February 5th launch, I was lost and confused and I also have 20 years IT background wtih IBM and I found it frustrating because everything was new and nothing was like what I was use to. But the only thing I can tell you is that once you get use to doing things on the z10, you realize what an amazing device and OS. I find that I am 3 times more productive with the new z10 than I have ever been with any smart phone, including Iphone 5 and Galaxy sII.
As a realtor, I can finally use a web browser that works, I mean works on all sites, including cpanel for my custom web site, supports Flash, works amazing in Desktop mode when I don't want to use the mobile mode. The Hub is the best feature of this phone, at first its a little confusing and somehow doesn't make sense, but after using it for a long time, I can't imagine using any phone without it. Also other major features that makes this phone stand out is the multi tasking of up to 8 apps at a given time. I can now have a mortgage calculator running, a web site, Papilion app for converting metres to feet, Land Transfer tax calculator, have my contacts app up and switching back and forth without exiting an app is a blessing. No more shutting down an app to go to another. The universal search is also an amazing feature that searches everything on your device (email, text, bbm, facebook, twitter, contacts, bookmarks, maps, web sites, documents, music videos, pictures and if it can't find it, gives you apps to search in. The last bonus is the remember app,, wow I can file everything based on my clients or specific tasks.
Not sure if you every used or owned an Iphone or Android phone, but when they launced their phone, it had nothing but major issues and to this day there is a lot of issues.. In fairness to BB, they have the largest launch of any new OS and device in history (70,000) on launch day. The last count is over 100,000 apps. I know that BB worked very hard to get developers of apps to build for the OS10, yes some should have been there at the launch, but they are also at the mercy of the developers and their schedule. The nice thing is that you can sideload any Android app on the z10. Skype is the only major app that has not arrived and skype should be releasing it soon.
Facetime is a copy from BBM. With BBM on z10, it works amazing with video chat, screen sharing and can even do a video chat with my kids on their Playbooks.
I bought my wife an IPhone 5 same day I picked up my z10. She doesn't last 5 hours of use without plugging in her device to a charger, and she is a very light user compared to me. The nice thing is that I have an option to carry a second battery when I need it after heavy usage. This is same for all high end smartphones, the battery doesn't last long. But for me I can last about 10 hours before I have to plug it in to charge or swap batteries. The battery life gets much better after 2weeks of use. I also have my screen brightness to max and volume on high. Also on a personal note, the IPhone 5 and z10 are not in the same class. The iPhone is so slow as a phone and the email, contacts, web browser are the worst I have ever used. Its good for my wife to do basic things , but as a business man, this phone is very weak. The android phones are much better that the IPhone 5. And if Apple continues this path, they will fall behind like Blackberry Did several years ago. My wife now admits that she wish she got the z10 instead of the IPhone, she sees what I can do with it and how fast and smooth everything is. She hates the fact that she cant pop in 64gb SD card or carry an extra battery when she needs it. She misses BBM.
Not familiar with your Ekey app, but if you contact the developer for Ekey and ask them when they are going to release it, then they will tell you. In the short time, you can side load it on your z10.
Not sure why you are having problems with zoom feature, works like any other phone out on the market.
With emails you can copy any email address by selecting the blue heading and slider appears on the right. There are several tips and tricks in the forum and also several videos on BB site. Also you keep talking about the IPhone email, have you ever used it , hands down its the worst of them all. Androids email is good. The forward email removes the senders email, but it is being addressed.
Tons of QR readers and password apps in BB world.
Bedside mode works great, just plug in the charger and slide down the little bed window.
Have no issues with BB maps, works great , as a test I compared it to my Garmin, very accurate and fast. Also not sure why you cant zoom or scroll on the maps..
But at the end as consumers, it’s nice to have a choice and more companies create new things, it is better for all of us. Sometimes things don’t fit our needs..
03-31-2013 08:57 PM
Thanks for your follow up but I don't think you really followed what I was saying about this device. I haven't found it any better than an older Blackberry. My old Torch did all the same things really but with a physical keyboard. I might be able to open more than one app at a time but that's not something I'm WANTING or NEEDING at any given time and if I was using all of that the battery would be dead in a few hours.
I don't give a rats rear about Facebook or Twitter on my phone. I need maps that work and so far I don't see it. Maybe I'm still on the learning curve - I won't say I fully understand the Z10 - but from what I'm experiencing so far, I'm disappointed.
The Ekey is the electronic key from GE's Supra group. Maybe in Canada you're using something else to open lock boxes but here this is what we need. I called Supra and spoke to a developer and was told that until they see enough demand for it. If someone explains how to download the Android version, I'll give it a try.
And what's your answer for the lack of Skype? That should have been there since day one. Same for Password Keeper. That was something almost exclusive to Blackberry but missing on its newest device.
I still think there should be an email icon on the home screen. I really don't like swiping back and forth. Even when you hit the text icon it goes to the HUB instead of to the text messages themselves. What's the point of having the text icon on the home screen? You touch the icon and it goes to the HUB then you have to touch TEXT MESSAGES. Why?
Regarding copying email addresses for an email header it copies The blue bubble which shows John Doe but its copied as 'John Doe' <firstname.lastname@example.org> I paste that into a new email and it does NOTHING. It DOES NOT RECOGNIZE the email address. IT DOES NOT WORK, PERIOD! I've tried it several times, to different people and nothing.
All in all, I don't find it to be a true "smart" phone.
03-31-2013 09:19 PM
I understand your frustration, but for me , it is truly a great phone. So much better than what I have ever used. Yes there are some features that they can improve and will in time. But for a new OS and new device it works great for my needs. But we all have diffrent needs and I respect that. For password keeper it is on BB world. Skype has been anounced and hopefully they come with native OS app instead of an android app. You can't blame BB for that, its skypes fault for not getting their S??T together.
The hub, I guess you either like it or hate it. At first I also wanted an email icon on my home screen, but now I don't , because I see the benefit of the hub.
At the end, you have to be happy, there is no point in trying to make you happy.
03-31-2013 09:57 PM - edited 03-31-2013 10:00 PM
It's not about TRYING to make me happy. It's about admitting that a device that's been bragged about since they first thought about it is not worth it. Simple things like copying an email address?? I mean, come on. It doesn't get any simpler than that. If you can copy an email address and paste into a new email that you're composing and successfully send it, your device is different from mine.
As far as the HUB is concerned I don't see the point. It's absolutely reduncant. Text Message icon AND text message in the HUB. When I tap the icon I should go straight to the text messages, period. NOT THE HUB. Facebook on the main screen; Facebook on the HUB. Twitter on the main screen; Twitter on the HUB. If you tap on the FB icon and read a notification you still have to go to the HUB to mark it read. That's not redundant to you? The only thing that's not redundant are the email accounts you set up but when you go to the HUB where ever you left off, that's where you have to start from. If you were in the FB messages, you have to swipe out of the main screen then out of FB messages to get to the emails. That's swiping twice. Once too many times, in my book.
It's not about making me happy. It's about a building a device that is 100% better than the competition not partially better. Although the keyboard is extraordinary the rest of the device is disappointing.
Oh, here's another issue. Today I connected my Z10 to my car's audio system. That took a while to figure out (much simpler on the Torch, btw) but I got it working. A call came in but I couldn't answer it over my car's handsfree system. I usually tap the phone button on my steering wheel but apparently when playing music the phone won't answer. I had to pull over, stop the music and return the call. My Torch stopped in the middle of the song and picked up right there when I ended the call. Never a problem.
03-31-2013 10:26 PM
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08-09-2013 05:07 PM
Sadly here we are months into the BB10 and Supra still is "waiting to see whether BB10 is adopted." I've been campaigning for four months with them.
Unfoprtunatelt the whole real estate industry, starting top down from NAR, has taken this same posture for the last couple Years.
It really frustrates me at an ethical level as just is wrong. Next will NAR tell us what kind of car to drive....
Personally I'd rather have a better phone and drop back and use Supra's Active Key.