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Developing for 8700c: what to install

I couldn't figure out what to install to develop for 8700c. As much as I understand, the device uses sorware v4.1.0.194. Would it be enough to install JDE v.4.1 and Device Simulator for 8700c? or do I need something else?

 

Please help

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Re: Developing for 8700c: what to install

What you suggest would be a good start, though along the way you might have to install Java, note the technical requirements listed on this page:

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/javaappdev/javadevenv.jsp

 

You might need signing keys when you load your app onto the real device:

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/javaappdev/codekeys.jsp

 

If you haven't coded for BlackBerry before, search round the forum for other entries which describe useful places to look for learning - this is the Rim getting started page:

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/started/

 

Have fun!

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Re: Developing for 8700c: what to install

I already went through all the introduction videos and guides.

 

Here is the problem I am having:

I installed JDE 4.1.0 and device driver for 8700c.

JDE does not show me 8700c in the simulators menu.

Also, I installed Eclipse's last version with component packs, and eclipse also does not show 8700c.


It seems like Eclipse does not recognize any device simulators with software version earlier than v4.3.


Was there some kind of major change happened with 4.3?

 


How can I develop for v4.1, for instance, with JDE or Eclipse? Don't I need v4.1 of JDE? Do I also need a component pack?

 

 

 

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Re: Developing for 8700c: what to install

To my knowledge, the earliest component plug-in for Eclipse is 4.3.  I think Rim have been requested to provide 4.2 (certainly I've asked for it!), and I'm hoping this will appear, however I suspect that 4.1 is unlikely. 

 

You could upgrade your 8700 - Rim have released 4.5 for the 8700.  See the following post for more information:

http://supportforums.blackberry.com/rim/board/message?board.id=java_dev&message.id=9752#M9752

 

I suggest if you really want to develop for a 4.1 8700, you need to use the JDE.  I sometimes develop using that JDE and just use the default 7290 Simulator, regardless of which ever device it is actually going to end up on.  However I think one of these articles will tell you how to integrate your 8700c simulator into the JDE.

 

How To - Connect the JDE to a specified simulator bundle
Article Number: DB-00059

http://www.blackberry.com/knowledgecenterpublic/livelink.exe/fetch/2000/348583/800901/How_To_-_Conne...

 

Support - BlackBerry JDE does not recognize previously installed simulators
Article Number: DB-00596

http://www.blackberry.com/knowledgecenterpublic/livelink.exe/fetch/2000/348583/800792/801083/Support...

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Re: Developing for 8700c: what to install

Thanks.

 

In the reference you sent (

http://www.blackberry.com/knowledgecenterpublic/livelink.exe/fetch/2000/348583/800792/801083/Support... 

)

RC file trick worked. Also, there is a table that suggest to use 4.2.0 jde for 4.1.0 simulators.

 

Thank you very much.

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Re: Developing for 8700c: what to install

WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING

 

I strongly suspect that the reference to using 4.1 simulators with 4.2 JDE is a mistake.  As far as I know, the cod file format changed in 4.2 and if you install a 4.2 cod onto a 4.1 device you can turn the device into a brick.

 

Please do NOT use the 4.2 JDE for your development when the application is going to run on a 4.1 device.

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Re: Developing for 8700c: what to install

I was able to integrate 4.1.0 simulator with 4.2.0 jde and be able to successfully run the simulator and later successfully deploy it to my 4.1.0 device.

 

However, I couldn't integrate 4.1.0 simulator with 4.1.0 jde. So the reference might be correct. I do not have enough knowledge to decide at this point.

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Registered: ‎07-09-2008
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Re: Developing for 8700c: what to install

This link explains how to manually integrate a BlackBerry Simulator with the BlackBerry JDE.  This can be used with BlackBerry JDE versions lower than 4.1.0 that won't pick up new simulators automatically.

 

How To - Connect the JDE to a specified simulator bundle
Article Number: DB-00059

http://www.blackberry.com/knowledgecenterpublic/livelink.exe/fetch/2000/348583/800901/How_To_-_Conne...

Mark Sohm
BlackBerry Development Advisor

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