03-23-2009 01:07 PM
for those interested on developing Blackberry apps on Linux, I finally setup a working environment on my Debian workstation using Eclipse 3.4.2, latest RIM JDE plugin (220.127.116.11) and 4.7 component (18.104.22.168).
It's possible to run any simulator, develop any kind of blackberry package and sign your .cod.
If someone is interested on a detailed guide, I setup one on my blog whit all steps.
1) fresh wine installation (I currently use 1.1.15, not last revision but it works!!!)
2) from winetricks you need gdiplus (it's essentially for simulator) and msxml3 (for simulator too)
3) on wine, you need to install Sun JDK 1.6 (I used 22.214.171.124)
4) after installed JDK, you need to insert your jdk path on wine, otherwise you can't run rapc.exe
to see if all was ok on JDK.
Now you can install eclipse and RIM component (don't use update size because you can experience some issues with ssl, simply download .zip file and add archive on eclipse).
After you installed plugin and component, you need to restart eclipse.
After restart you see two dialog error. Simply ignore it (by now I don't know how solve this issue).
Now, you need to modify some path to use your environment correctly.
Go to eclipse_home/plugind/net.rim.ide..../components/bi
on all .rc file change "\" path with "/" (it's linux )
You need to leave ONLY unchanged the SimulatorDirectory line on Settings.rc (otherwise on first eclipse launch you got an endless loop)
go to eclipse_home/plugind/net.rim.ide..../components/si
Now you have a working environment !!!!!!!!
Only few things to know:
1) on first emulator start you can deploy automagically your projects. You need to stop simulator and rerun again (it's just for frst execution. It's a path issue and by now I'm working to solve)
2) when you close IDE, you need to evert path on Settings.rc (SimulatorDirectory row to windows style)
3) you need to have your eclipse installation on your home directory (because RIM JDE don't work on .eclipse)
If you have any other fix or issue,
simply reply to this thread.
When upload a detailed guide on my blog I'll update this post
Finally, please forgive my english
Regards and enjoy,
Salvatore Ansani (aka DoK)
03-23-2009 02:36 PM
That's pretty neat! Do you have the debugger working as well?
I still fail at trying to get the debugger to work in IntelliJ (on Windows).
03-23-2009 02:47 PM
Yes, debugger works ok, you can use all eclipse debbugging features.
I'm still trying to enable device debug (on windows all ok), because I need a JNI linux USB driver.
03-23-2009 04:55 PM
So basically you're running Eclipse under wine, and also tweaking a few related things?
I'm curious as to how well this really works, and if there are any hidden quirks. (for example, sometimes I've found the simulator to not be 100% reliable in Wine, though a couple years ago it didn't work at all)
Right now BB development is one of the very few things I actually use Windows for, and an experience I'd like to have as unquirky as possible. Would be even better if somehow the JNI hooks in the BB eclipse plugin could be made to use Wine, then only the simulator would have to run in Wine. (or even better if the simulator were just ported by RIM)
03-24-2009 01:53 AM
Not, I run Eclipse and all JDE components natively on Linux (not on an emulated environment).
I spawn a wine session *ONLY* for rapc.exe and fledge.exe (compilation and simulator launching).
All seems to works ok. I currently use this environment to code my BB application and to test on emulators (currently I tested successfully on wine last revision of 9500 9530 8810 8330 8300).
The only thing I've faults running it's attaching eclipse to real device, because I need RIMUsbJni.dll extension running (but I'm invetigating on it).
03-24-2009 08:29 PM
Ahh... You know RAPC.exe is really just a wrapper for RAPC.jar :-) "fledge.exe" is the only part that really does require Wine. (however RIM still has some lurking hard-coded backslashes in the resource-file generation bits of rapc.jar,which you'll only run into if you try to internationalize your app. You can fix this using the same don't-tell-RIM techniques people have used to get the signature tool working on Linux.
03-25-2009 02:10 AM
Regarding signature tool, now signature.jar run smoothly on Eclipse. I just changed the .exe to a .sh bash script and changed the javaw.exe on Settings.rc with java, so I don't need WINE to run it.
About rapc.exe, I see all internal calls it does because I'm using WINE. I don't known, now, if it's possible to change the rapc.exe requirements on eclipse, but I'm playing a lot with .rc files
Fledge.exe it' a wrapper too. It's possible to change with an "alternative". The only real problematic thing is Jvm.dll that fledge.exe use to run simulator
03-29-2009 05:05 AM
thanks for your tricks!
i try your trick on macosx 10.5,
then i stuck on Popup message after restarting Eclipse.
I can't click the button on that pop-up error.
(popup can not find RIMIDEWin32Util.dll)
how to skip the popup button?
(you said that we can ignore the popups)
this is my specification:
- macosx 10.5 with Java 1.6.0 u7
- eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR2-macosx-carbon and eclipse-SDK-3.4.2-macosx-carbon
anyone success on macosx?
04-22-2009 02:41 AM
Hi Mac guys
I just bought a mac mini with mac osx 10.5.x and installed eclipse and JDE plugins.
Of course you can install *all* RIM plugins and components (I installed plugin .67 and 4.7 component) and you can code without troubles on eclipse IDE.
If you want to compile (like the Linux version) you need Darwine to execute rapc.exe (if you want to use tools provided by RIM) or you need to rewrite the rapc.exe wrapper (I'm using darwine + rapc and I'm still happy!) .
So, on macosx, you can produce a .cod and make signing without any problems.
Now I'm working on running emulator on macosx trough darwine (I have some gdiplus problems by now...).